# I do not believe you. In fact, I think you're a liar. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154 "2009-09-22T22:36:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/81 "2009-09-23T13:31:04Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Re: ORAN, I don’t really know what’s so bizarre about it. It’s an unusual name but no hilarious sounding or anything. [Odhran - Name Meaning, What does Odhran mean?](http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Odhran) There was even a one-hit wonder R&B singer who was named “Oran”–[cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oran_Jones). ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/82 "2009-09-23T13:35:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > So is La-a a real name or not? > > (The hyphen isn’t silent. It is pronounced Ladasha.) Hmmmm…The Toyota car salesman who sold me my last car had a first name of La. I wonder if it is related (I think he said he was of Vietnamese (sp?) descent ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/83 "2009-09-23T13:41:24Z")
Come to think of it, there is/was a race car driver named Dick Trickle. Also, it seems like the Oranjello/Lemonjello urban legend has been around long enough, that there might be one or two kids out there with one of those names. Sort of a self-fulfilling [del]prophecy[/del] lie. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/84 "2009-09-23T13:42:28Z")
> [@Gesturing\_Mildly](#): > > Hahahaha. Sorry OP. I’m sure this isn’t where you expected this thread to go. > > I’ll scan and post a picture of Pepsi Hooker from my yearbook, though. Okay with a name like that, she’s got to have at least one stag film under her belt? Right? …right?! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/85 "2009-09-23T13:59:02Z")
> [@Buford\_was\_no\_angel](#): > > [I think you mean Velvet Milkman, the women’s golf coach at Murray State University in Murray, Kentucky](http://www.goracers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=6700&ATCLID=218404). Ha! I thought I typed Milkman and had to scroll up to what I wrote to believe you! ---
**Author:** ![Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Buford\_was\_no\_angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buford_was_no_angel)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/86 "2009-09-23T14:13:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Ha! I thought I typed Milkman and had to scroll up to what I wrote to believe you! No worries. Velvet Milkshake is an even better name. With my job I come across lots of odd names too. My two favorites at the moment are General Miracle and Princess Fudge. ---
**Author:** ![Torpor\_Beast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71e660/32.png) [@Torpor\_Beast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torpor_Beast)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/87 "2009-09-23T14:16:44Z")
[“Dat Ho is on Facebook.”](http://www.facebook.com/people/Dat-Ho/737111723) :-’ ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/88 "2009-09-23T14:47:18Z")
There’s a difference between an odd name or combination of names and names that require the giver to be illiterate and (generally in the stories) black. Haw haw haw! She didn’t know the word “Female”! Haw haw haw! She didn’t know what “Chlamydia” was and she thought it was purrrrty! Haw haw haw! The people I work with are so stupid they named their kids “Lemonjello and Orangejello”! ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/89 "2009-09-23T14:51:34Z")
When your actual name is Lanzy you tend to bond with other odd names. My favorite real name I know is “Irma Screw”. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/90 "2009-09-23T15:06:20Z")
There is a local politician here named Mike Cox. I giggle whenever I see his signs in people’s yards. I don’t know why he doesn’t go by Michael, although I bet people remember his name this way! ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/91 "2009-09-23T15:25:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Didn’t _Freakanomics_ report Lemonjello/Orangello thing verbatim? > > Jell-O is a brand name for what Brits call jelly- gelatin-based fruit flavoured desserts, in other words. It’s become the pejorative here, like _Hoover_ in the UK. > [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Your profile doesn’t show your location, but I gather you must live in a country where Jell-O is not a popular dessert. Lemon Jell-O and Orange Jell-O. Mmmm, I know what Jello is, I’ve seen the boxes ages back, but the joke utterly escapes me. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/92 "2009-09-23T15:25:37Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Didn’t _Freakanomics_ report Lemonjello/Orangello thing verbatim? > > Jell-O is a brand name for what Brits call jelly- gelatin-based fruit flavoured desserts, in other words. It’s become the pejorative here, like _Hoover_ in the UK. “Jello” and “Hoover” are used as insults? ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/93 "2009-09-23T15:34:19Z")
I know **Ivor Ash**. And his sister Olga. Which isn’t as funny. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/94 "2009-09-23T15:39:27Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Pink and Pinky - this was a brother and sister. The brother was Pink. Not only that, but he was Pink III. His Dad and Grandfather also had the name Pink, and both decided to pass on the name. If my name was Pink, I’d quickly adopt the nickname Floyd. In the movie Dazed and Confused there was a character named Randall Floyd whose nickname was Pink. My first college roommate was Peter Dick. Yes, he’d heard every possible joke about it, and had a preemptive “I’ll never name a son of mine Harry.” ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/95 "2009-09-23T15:51:00Z")
My wife went to school with (and we have the yearbook to prove it) the Crotchfelt sisters. I believe one of them said “fuck this” and legally changed her name right out of high school. As to the whole Oranjello/Lemonjello thing, I would have to think that by now _someone_ would’ve seen it as a short cut to some minor fame and given their kids those names. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/96 "2009-09-23T15:53:34Z")
One of the English teachers in my high school was a Miss Stiff, who sophomore year married a Mr. Cox. She chose not to hyphenate. And I once defended a case against a plaintiff named Harry A. Ness. I dunno; I think I would have gone by “Henry” or maybe dropped the “A.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/97 "2009-09-23T15:54:34Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > “Jello” and “Hoover” are used as insults? Oops. Ubiquitous, not pejorative. Not sure what I was thinking there. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/98 "2009-09-23T15:59:32Z")
> [@wmfellows](#): > > Mmmm, I know what Jello is, I’ve seen the boxes ages back, but the joke utterly escapes me. Jello comes in different flavors, such as lemon and orange. The story goes that a woman who just gave birth was given lemon jello in the hospital, saw what it said, and thought that Lemongello (accent on the second syllable) would be a great name for her son. Same story with Orangello. Similar story with Nosmo King. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/99 "2009-09-23T16:01:54Z")
> [@Faruiza](#): > > I may have mentioned this before but I saw the yearbook picture, so that’s all the documentation I needed at the time to believe the story of the girl named, “Smelda Rottencrotch”. > A lady I worked with some years ago swore that she went to school with a girl by that name. I wouldn’t believe it, so she brought me her yearbook. It looked like an ordinary yearbook, completely unaltered. I guess it’s possible that someone on the yearbook committee snuck a name change in before press time, but dang if she didn’t look like a Smelda. I believe, also that the school was in Texas. > Make of that what you will, but I have no faith in people not to be mean or stupid fuckers, even to their own kids. > On an unrelated note…do you ever find that you ask yourself in circumstances like these why on earth you shared?😉 While this could be a mean parent (see quote below), there are several fake names in my high school year book. “Sid Vicious” was a self edit, but a couple of subtle, mean jibes made it through editing as well. > [@astro](#): > > [Ima Hogg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima_Hogg) I was going to mention that as well. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > There’s a difference between an odd name or combination of names and names that require the giver to be illiterate and (generally in the stories) black. > > Haw haw haw! She didn’t know the word “Female”! Haw haw haw! She didn’t know what “Chlamydia” was and she thought it was purrrrty! Haw haw haw! The people I work with are so stupid they named their kids “Lemonjello and Orangejello”! You may not believe it, it may not happen often, but it does happen. I met girl from Micronesia whose mother was named Florence. For some reason, her father wanted all his daughters to have Flo- names. She was the fourth and ended up with Florene (pronounced the same as flourine). I forget what the rest of her sisters names were, but there were five of them in total. ETA: I did meet a Chief Stains in the Navy. At some point in his career (at least in boot camp) he would have been Seaman Stains. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154/100 "2009-09-23T16:30:05Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] > Disbelieve any of these first names at your peril. I can deliver to you the online court record links which will demonstrate their reality. > > ACE Uh, why would I disbelieve that one? [/QUOTE] It’s pronounced “Assy.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-believe-you-in-fact-i-think-youre-a-liar/511154.md?page=6)