# I do not share your racism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588 "2011-10-14T00:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/161 "2011-10-18T00:03:02Z")

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How much did you charge her for information?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/162 "2011-10-18T00:21:47Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Also, last night, as I was walking to my car, I pointed out to a lady digging through her purse at a parking meter that it was Sunday, so she didn’t need to feed the meter.
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> And she was black.
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> Boo-yah! One (1) Prop, please.

That’s not how this works. You have to take some great stand against injustice, like scowling inwardly when someone makes a racist remark. You don’t just get to be nice to people who happen to be black and think you get a Prop.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/163 "2011-10-18T01:00:32Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/164 "2011-10-18T01:09:08Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> That’s not how this works. You have to take some great stand against injustice, like scowling inwardly when someone makes a racist remark. You don’t just get to be nice to people who happen to be black and think you get a Prop.

Whitey tries to pull one over on a proud African sister yet again. We’re on to you, **Rover**!

Prop please.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/165 "2011-10-18T01:52:51Z")

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No Props for you either.

So back to the bizarre course this thread has taken – I’m kind of an ass for giving **sven** more shit than I’ve been giving **Randy** , who actually believes in racial superiority, but I suppose I was more irritated by \*\*sven \*\*seriously wanting a cookie for not being racist than I was by Randy being an unreasonable ass yet again. Is that a run-on sentence?

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**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/166 "2011-10-18T01:58:52Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> No Props for you either.
> 
> So back to the bizarre course this thread has taken – I’m kind of an ass for giving **sven** more shit than I’ve been giving **Randy** , who actually believes in racial superiority, but I suppose I was more irritated by \*\*sven \*\*seriously wanting a cookie for not being racist than I was by Randy being an unreasonable ass yet again. Is that a run-on sentence?

One of them has a more American name. **Sven,** that sounds socialist or worse, European. Your instincts kicked in.

🙂

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/167 "2011-10-18T02:04:45Z")

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> [@Caffeine.addict](#):
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> Drivers from Virginia go faster than 15 mph in DC? I usually associate Virginia drivers with driving painfully slow and acting a little lost.
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> The Maryland drivers are the ones that speed through the neighborhoods and don’t signal. They also like to cut through the alley.

Amen, MD drivers treat our city streets like a toilet as they cut through the city, VA drivers are just scared shitless.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/168 "2011-10-18T02:14:28Z")

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> [@pkd88](#):
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> One of them has a more American name. **Sven,** that sounds socialist or worse, European. Your instincts kicked in.
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> 🙂

It’s true. Her user name seems so… fishy.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/169 "2011-10-18T04:15:59Z")

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Well, unfortunately there are some truths that many don’t like to recognize.

Yes, it’s true, because they’re poorer and cone from a historically persecuted culture, blacks are more likely than whites to engage in violent crime.

Similarly, whites have extremely small penises and are sexually inferior to whites.

That’s why historically white men react so badly when they see white women fraternizing with black men.

Who can blame them when they quite literally can’t measure up.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/170 "2011-10-18T04:29:08Z")

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Black Americans and “white” Russians commit murder at roughly the same rates, though the Russian rate is almost certainly higher because reporting and record keeping wrt to crime is better in the US. Russian street criminals do in fact target Asians and Africans for robbery and murder. They boast openly of this and make videos of their crimes as well.

There isn’t any evidence of a corresponding widespread anti white crime wave among black criminals in DC or anywhere else. In fact, black American criminals are much more likely to murder black Americans than they are white Americans.

The “targeting whites” argument is complete shit, especially when you consider that criminals who murder whites get stiffer sentences that people who murder blacks.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/171 "2011-10-18T04:31:32Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Hey, California may be strange, but it’s still America.
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> 🙂

And how do we know your mother didn’t fly to Costa Rica to have you, and then fly right back to Cali? It could happen.

I’m going to need to see a long form birth certificate. On the original parchment. 😃

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/172 "2011-10-18T04:37:06Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Similarly, whites have extremely small penises and are sexually inferior to whites.

And they’re crappy at making comparisons and/or proofreading.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/173 "2011-10-18T06:06:33Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> No Props for you either.
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> So back to the bizarre course this thread has taken – I’m kind of an ass for giving **sven** more shit than I’ve been giving **Randy** , who actually believes in racial superiority, but I suppose I was more irritated by \*\*sven \*\*seriously wanting a cookie for not being racist than I was by Randy being an unreasonable ass yet again. Is that a run-on sentence?

Just for the record, I don’t believe in racial superioriity.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/174 "2011-10-18T14:08:30Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And they’re crappy at making comparisons and/or proofreading.

Please educate yourself before posting. And go talk to 12 years old Blacks, otherwise you’re not allowed to post in the same thread Warraq deigns to grace with his pertinent remarks.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/175 "2011-10-18T14:37:47Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> So back to the bizarre course this thread has taken – I’m kind of an ass for giving **sven** more shit than I’ve been giving **Randy** , who actually believes in racial superiority, but I suppose I was more irritated by **sven** seriously wanting a cookie for not being racist than I was by Randy being an unreasonable ass yet again. Is that a run-on sentence?

No.

Here, have a cookie for getting the punctuation right.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/176 "2011-10-18T14:54:38Z")

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> [@Terraplane](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> 😕
> 
> Ok, I’ll take you at your word that you’re not a racist. And that a black person whose behavior, beliefs, and associates you dislike is not what you meant when you typed out “a stereotypical person of color.” But then, since you seem to agree with me that it’s ok to dislike somebody based on their behavior or beliefs but NOT ok to dislike them based on the color of their skin, I’m wondering what the point of your first post was supposed to be.
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> “I bet you dislike Tea Partiers [whose ideals you know and find distasteful] more than I dislike people of color [whose ideals I don’t know and so am at worst neutral toward]?” Well, not really a huge shocker there, is it? What is the point of making that comparison?

I appreciate your desire to understand. I won’t speak to your series of comments but, by way of explanation, will admit to a lack of ability and even effort to make myself understood from post to post.

I started off by trying to make the point that the dislike, disdain and even hate for Tea Baggers is obvious around here. What exactly are the reasons for that attitude?

Whatever they are, my dislike for a person of a different race is based on much the same thing…it’s not simply skin color.

To the extent every person who goes to a Tea Party rally can be lumped into a common group, I think I should be able to do the same for other groups.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/177 "2011-10-18T16:09:06Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> What the fuck is a white racist doing living in a predominantly black neighbourhood ? 😕

two things:

First, there are white racists who live in largely black neighborhoods. Not “aversive racists” or whatever, just plain old “I hate black people” racists. They’re rare but they exist. I’ve met a couple. They want/need to live in the city, and they need someplace cheap. In DC, at least, that means your neighbors are going to include a lot of black people. Just because you live in a neighborhood doesn’t mean you have to like your neighbors.

However, I’m not convinced that the lady in the OP was racist at all. We only have **Sven’s** word for the tone of her warning. Even accepting that, there’s no evidence the italicized “they” referred to black people in general. It’s more likely she was referring to street criminals, who would in fact enjoy beating up a white person for reasons beyond acquiring cash and iphones.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/178 "2011-10-18T17:18:03Z")

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You know MOL, I’m fairly ticked off that you casually mention that I “believe in racial superiority,” especially after I took so much time to painstakingly walk you through my thought process on this issue.

Can you explain whyt you would say such a thing? Why can’t you undersÞand that I’m not making a value judgment when I discuss the factual statements about the averages for various measures in different races?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/179 "2011-10-18T17:31:38Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You know MOL, I’m fairly ticked off that you casually mention that I “believe in racial superiority,” especially after I took so much time to painstakingly walk you through my thought process on this issue.

He used little words and everything. The guy is _trying_, here.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-share-your-racism/599588/180 "2011-10-18T17:46:18Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> …However, I’m not convinced that the lady in the OP was racist at all. We only have **Sven’s** word for the tone of her warning. Even accepting that, there’s no evidence the italicized “they” referred to black people in general. It’s more likely she was referring to street criminals, who would in fact enjoy beating up a white person for reasons beyond acquiring cash and iphones.

I agree with this statement. Also, I’d like to give a piece of advice to newer residents of DC of all backgrounds: pace yourselves, don’t jump all over every perceived racist undertone in an utterance because a) you will be exhausted by New Year’s; and b) there will be plenty of opportunities to respond to overt racism of all shapes and sizes, be picky. Like I said: DC, like most cities consists of people of various backgrounds trying to get along and for the most part it does a pretty good job of it, but given the size of the city you’re bound to run in to some real flaming douchebags, save your outrage for them.

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