# I do not understand why this thread was closed

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 14, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930 "2008-08-14T02:14:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/1 "2008-08-14T02:14:18Z")

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I am hardly the first person to question the way a political candidate dresses. They just a segment of this very subject on Fox and Friends (I think that is the name of the morning show). Bill O’Reilly has a guy on every few months that discusses the way politicians dress. Maybe it would have been better in IMHO, but considering the way people react to negative comments on Obama, I thought it better to start it in the Pit.

> **[I pit Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=479353)**
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> For his choice in neck ties. They are too wide, and Obama uses knots that are too fat. He is skinny man. Using wide ties with fat knots only makes him look skinner. This foretells an ineffective presidency, if he is elected. ...

Edit:  
–It was not my intention to troll. I really do hate Obama’s ties.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/2 "2008-08-14T02:15:49Z")

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I just had a sudden [insight.](http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4687/25inchesoffuney6.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/3 "2008-08-14T02:17:08Z")

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Funny. I know why it was closed. It’s because you’re a troll and most people can see it now.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/4 "2008-08-14T02:20:43Z")

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No silly. You question McCain. About any silly thing you want. Add “forked” to your thread title. You’ll be a mod in months.

You never, ever question the Big O around here. You wanna get banned??? This is not a democracy! This is the Obamacracy. Just look at everyone’s location fields.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/5 "2008-08-14T02:24:49Z")

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Which forum would be the proper one to question Obama’s choice of neckties?

Can I re-open my thread in that forum?

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/6 "2008-08-14T02:27:14Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I just had a sudden [insight.](http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4687/25inchesoffuney6.jpg)  
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Oh, so you _don’t_ count the hair after all.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/7 "2008-08-14T02:27:40Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I just had a sudden [insight.](http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4687/25inchesoffuney6.jpg)  
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Oh, god, I’m still laughing. Thank you.

It’s not about “dissing” McCain and adulating Obama, l **evdrakon** –I have seen a few McCain locations on posts. It’s about making huge leaps of logic from the width of neck apparel to the ability to lead. That thread deserved to be closed, and the OP probably deserves to be banned, not for that thread, but for the pattern of behavior evinced over months.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/8 "2008-08-14T02:29:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun]  
Which forum would be the proper one to question Obama’s choice of neckties?

Can I re-open my thread in that forum?  
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MPSIMS is generally the place for retarded fluff. Cafe Society is for fashion. If you’re looking for opinions on ties and want to take a poll, IMHO. Specifically, that thread was more retarded than anything else so MPSIMS would have probably been your best bet.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/9 "2008-08-14T02:31:04Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
It’s about making huge leaps of logic from the width of neck apparel to the ability to lead.  
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That part was hyperbole. I do not think Obama’s choice is ties really show he will be a bad leader.

BUT THEY DO LOOK AWFUL!

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/10 "2008-08-14T02:34:01Z")

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What ever happened to bow ties?

I’d like to see a presidential candidate in a bow tie.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/11 "2008-08-14T02:36:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
What ever happened to bow ties?

I’d like to see a presidential candidate in a bow tie.  
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Paul Simon was our last, best hope.

> **[Paul Simon (politician)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Simon_(politician))**
>
> Paul Martin Simon (November 29, 1928 – December 9, 2003) was an American author and politician from Illinois. He served in the United States House of Representatives from 1975 to 1985 and in the United States Senate from 1985 to 1997. A member of the Democratic Party, he unsuccessfully ran for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination.
> After his political career, Simon founded the Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University Carbondale in Carbondale, Illinois, which was later nam...

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/12 "2008-08-14T02:38:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
What ever happened to bow ties?

I’d like to see a presidential candidate in a bow tie.  
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Senator Paul Simon was a wearer of bow ties.  
[heworethemwell](http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/simon.obit.ap/story.simon.ap.jpg)

Sadly, he is no longer with us. Obama in a bow tie would look too much like Don Knotts, IMO.

**2 and 1/2** –that’s the thing. With you, who can tell hyperbole from naivety to just messing with folks?

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**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/13 "2008-08-14T02:39:00Z")

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I’m sorry, I do not see the problem here.

2.5" is not attacking anyone here, his fart thread had been funny. Maybe he hasn’t been too funny in it, but it has been one of the more amusing threads in a while.

Are there other **better** examples of his trolling since his return?

I mean good Lord you want this place to stagnate?

When he starts attacking posters here and just fucking arguing to argue, then you may have a case. But this? This is **IT**?  
I’ve seen worse shit.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/14 "2008-08-14T02:45:14Z")

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You guys are kidding. He recommends that Obama dress like the cast of \*Mad Men \* and you can take it as serious trolling. What delicate flowers.

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/15 "2008-08-14T02:46:51Z")

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Maybe you’re just boring. Choose one: (a) start better threads (b) start fewer threads.

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**Author:** ![MadPansy64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@MadPansy64](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadPansy64)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/16 "2008-08-14T02:53:36Z")

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Let’s see … hmm  
You have one thread in the Pit, with 180+ replies after two days. You posted the OP, 20 minutes later you posted once more, and haven’t been back since.

I suspect Giraffe is simply tired of your BS.

Stay out of the Pit, until you learn to participate in the threads you start. Then work on not posting stupid shit in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/17 "2008-08-14T02:58:21Z")

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**GO FUCK YOURSELF FUCKFACE**

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/18 "2008-08-14T03:00:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]  
What ever happened to bow ties?

I’d like to see a presidential candidate in a bow tie.  
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Maybe not. There’s a comedic TV star here who wears regular neckties but ties them like bowties. Very strange effect.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/19 "2008-08-14T03:04:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
Maybe not. There’s a comedic TV star here who wears regular neckties but ties them like bowties. Very strange effect.  
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Do have a picture? I cannot image that working. I would think that gravity would just pull it down.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-do-not-understand-why-this-thread-was-closed/459930/20 "2008-08-14T03:14:52Z")

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[QUOTE=don’t ask]  
You guys are kidding. He recommends that Obama dress like the cast of \*Mad Men \* and you can take it as serious trolling. What delicate flowers.  
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There is a Mini-Rants thread. Seems to me it might have been enough to just put it in there, especially since:

1. He just came back from a suspension and
2. He already has that farting pit thread floating around (which many others considered just as stupid, even for the pit).

So you’d think he’d, at least, try to be more reserved and walking on eggshells.  
Then again, you did pay for his membership, right? So yeah, I would think you’d probably stick up for him some. I would too if I saw my money was just going to waste… but if you think that some are calling him a troll just for that Obama tie thread, you are mistaken as [some people](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9395495&postcount=99) have been calling him one for a very long time. And here’s another more [recent one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9756138&postcount=142).

As you can see, I’ve been saying that for ages; really, since he first came and even before you paid for his membership. I seem to remember a lot of people thinking it around then too, yet you still ponied up for his fee. That’s very kind of you. 🙂 I really think that. However, it seems like it might have been a bit of a waste (only my opinion though). In fact, one of the reasons I think he HASN’T been banned yet may actually be for that reason alone..that they don’t want to inconvience you. 😛

Haha, kidding, I’m just talking about my ass. But yeah, I have no idea why he’s still around. Again, YM(obviously)MV.

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