# I Don’t Care If Trump Doesn’t Spend a Day in Prison

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 27, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915 "2023-01-27T18:28:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/101 "2023-02-01T01:27:33Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> His supporters: I don’t care how they feel or what they do. They are nuts and whether or not he goes to prison they are going to keep harassing anyone they perceive as against them. They are terrorists who Trump has give permission to them to be loud and proud about hating anyone who doesn’t look like them or think like them. They need to be shown that even though they worship him, not everyone does. When they act on their evil, then they need to face the law. Just like their leader.

Thirded

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/102 "2023-02-01T01:37:51Z")

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Fourthed. This was beautifully said.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/103 "2023-02-01T10:09:10Z")

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I can’t understand the federal level fear of putting a president in jail. The state level equivalent would be governors, and here in Illinois we have no problem putting governors in prison.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/104 "2023-02-01T19:53:07Z")

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Not sure if we have ever had 70,000,000 people that only want their guy, and are willing to do anything to keep/get them elected.

But we need this solved. I’m not calling for violence. Justice would be just fine.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/105 "2023-02-02T00:10:42Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> The state level equivalent would be governors, and here in Illinois we have no problem putting governors in prison.

Four of your last eleven governors went to prison. If prison is an effective deterrence for political corruption, how are we to explain the most recent three?

My view is that the value of punishment is wildly overestimated on the Internet.

In the case of presidential corruption, a politician with those inclinations would expect to rely on a self-pardon.

I’m not opposed to sending crooked politicians to prison for clear violations of ordinary laws, but I find it hard to believe that it deters.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/106 "2023-02-02T00:17:02Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Four of your last eleven governors went to prison. If prison is an effective deterrence for political corruption, how are we to explain the most recent three?
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> My view is that the value of punishment is wildly overestimated on the Internet.

I don’t see this as any reason not to throw Trump into a prison. After a conviction, of course. Which should be easy if someone only tried.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/107 "2023-02-02T04:51:51Z")

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Punishment, and/or deterrence are not the point. I’m all for punishing that piece of crap, but that is not the point. I also don’t think making him serve his time will deter the next nut job that cons his way into office.

What I’m concerned with is justice for the country he fleeced, embarrassed, trashed, and drove further apart. I’m concerned about equity. Our legal system is already weighted heavily toward those who have money and/or power. I honestly feel if he walks, it will just make the disparity more stark. He was the President, the most powerful and ideally admired person in the world, and he betrayed and besmirched the office, the country, and our system of laws. He needs to pay for his crimes like anyone else should. Hell, he should be held to a MUCH higher standard not a lower one.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/108 "2023-02-02T14:06:32Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Hell, he should be held to a MUCH higher standard not a lower one.

This. Clearly he doesn’t know jack shit. But I don’t care. He had the power of his office to have advisers show him right from wrong. They did. He ignored them (see the insurrection) He needs to be held to the letter of the law.

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/109 "2023-02-02T14:10:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> He needs to be held to the letter of the law.

And if he isn’t? Which seems possible, and even likely on some days. I’m preaching how you might live with that result.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/110 "2023-02-02T16:33:24Z")

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> [@slicedalone](#):
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> I’m preaching how you might live with that result.

Not sure how to parse that.

I’m a white male. I’ll be fine. I don’t have that long to live. But I feel a duty to fellow humans, and the earth itself.

_First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist._  
_Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist._  
_Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew._  
_Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me._

—Martin Niemöller

After World War II, Niemöller openly spoke about his own early complicity in Nazism and his eventual change of heart. His powerful words about guilt and responsibility still resonate today.

This is the road that we are on, we must choose the correct path ~ enipla

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**Author:** ![Laf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@Laf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laf)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/111 "2023-02-03T19:00:41Z")

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Very well stated, I still want him sent Parchment Farm in Louisiana-General Population. Having 2 or 3 dozen prison-husbands

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/112 "2023-02-03T19:57:39Z")

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Hey welcome to our community! We generally shy away from prison rape jokes, but I get the desire to lock the bastard up. (We’re generally cool about calling Trump a bastard.)

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/113 "2023-02-03T20:00:15Z")

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Welcome to the Straight Dope.

I’d like to point out, that while many of us support your position of distaste, prison rape jokes are less popular.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/114 "2023-02-03T20:59:40Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Laf](#):
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> Very well stated, I still want him sent Parchment Farm in Louisiana-General Population. Having 2 or 3 dozen prison-husbands

While “prison-husbands” doesn’t expressly imply prison rape, it’s uncomfortably adjacent. I encourage you to avoid these type of references going forward, as others have likewise encouraged you to do.

Welcome to the board.

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**Author:** ![Laf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@Laf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laf)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-don-t-care-if-trump-doesn-t-spend-a-day-in-prison/978915/115 "2023-02-10T23:38:54Z")

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Apologies. Will stay away from expressing violent fantasies no matter how deserved. This is not the forum

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