# I don't believe, but have to admit thats kind of spooky
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**Created:** [May 5, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305 "2015-05-05T11:44:28Z")
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/1 "2015-05-05T11:44:28Z")
There is something in the biblical tale of the anti-christ prophecy I think that describes how everyone on earth will “see” something within an hour. This was plainly impossible at the time, but it isn’t impossible NOW(TV, internet).
Sylvia Brown told a woman asking if she would ever see her kidnapped daughter again, that she would see her again in heaven. The woman clearly took this to mean her daughter was dead, but the daughter turned up alive after her mom had died. So indeed they never met again in life. I’ll give Brown that one.😛
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/2 "2015-05-05T11:55:22Z")
> [@grude](#):
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> There is something in the biblical tale of the anti-christ prophecy I think that describes how everyone on earth will “see” something within an hour. This was plainly impossible at the time, but it isn’t impossible NOW(TV, internet).
I can’t recall anything like this in the bible, perhaps some help on this?
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/3 "2015-05-05T12:03:50Z")
What anti-christ prophecy are you referring to?
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/4 "2015-05-05T12:10:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What anti-christ prophecy are you referring to?
The closest I can find to the OP’s contention is 1 John 2:18-27, however that is to a specific audience all in one place, who already knows God. Last hour is used, but does not seem to be a term of a clock hour.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/5 "2015-05-05T12:20:39Z")
And the “antichrists” described in that chapter “is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.”
edited to add: I am the antichrist!
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### Author:  [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/6 "2015-05-05T12:42:05Z")
Its in revelations, and I’m not a biblical scholar obviously.
EDIT:I think I was mixing up this:
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> And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
And another part about everyone seeing Jesus’s second coming.
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/7 "2015-05-05T13:14:15Z")
> [@grude](#):
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> Its in revelations, and I’m not a biblical scholar obviously.
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> EDIT:I think I was mixing up this:
I really don’t see that here either, and Revelation is what is happening in the spiritual world/heavenly realms (things normally not seen, the writer is privileged to see hence the title of this book, it is a revealing of what is going on beyond what we can see.), it does have a physical counterpart, easily seen with the 4 horses of the apocalypse, we don’t expect to actually see those 4 horses as physical animals, but we expect to experience the effects.
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> And another part about everyone seeing Jesus’s second coming.
Would have to look for this one.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/8 "2015-05-05T13:23:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And the “antichrists” described in that chapter “is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.”
> edited to add: I am the antichrist!
But are you an anarchist?
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/9 "2015-05-05T13:26:07Z")
> [@grude](#):
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> And another part about everyone seeing Jesus’s second coming.
Rev 1:7?
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> “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”\*\*
> and “every eye will see him,
> even those who pierced him”;
> and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”[c]
> So shall it be! Amen.
I do not take that a a physical happening, but a spiritual, yes it will happen but not on a physical time time is how I see that. But yes you can make the case as a one time event, however that does include those who have already died as those who pierced him have died.
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### Author:  [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/10 "2015-05-05T14:05:19Z")
> [@grude](#):
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> There is something in the biblical tale of the anti-christ prophecy I think that describes how everyone on earth will “see” something within an hour. This was plainly impossible at the time, but it isn’t impossible NOW(TV, internet).
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> Sylvia Brown told a woman asking if she would ever see her kidnapped daughter again, that she would see her again in heaven. The woman clearly took this to mean her daughter was dead, but the daughter turned up alive after her mom had died. So indeed they never met again in life. I’ll give Brown that one.😛
I have to assume you are talking about the prediction that Sylvia Brown made to Amanda Berry’s mother on the Montel Williams show.
If you gave Sylvia Brown that one, you are the only one. No one gave Sylvia Brown that one. Not even Sylvia Brown gave Sylvia Brown that one. I guess you left out the part where she told Lowanda Brown “She’s not alive, honey”. Straight up, no hedging “She’s not alive”. Yes, she did say the stuff about seeing her in heaven, as a way to soften “She’s not alive”.
> **[Amanda Berry is dead, psychic tells her mother on Montel Williams' show...](https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013/05/amanda_berry_is_dead_psychic_t.html)**
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> A psychic on Montel Williams' TV show told Amanda Berry's mother in 2004 that her child was dead.
Sylvia Brown’s own freaking statement, the best she could come up with, was "Only God is right all the time "
Don’t be so fast to give Brown that one.
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### Author:  [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/11 "2015-05-05T20:05:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And the “antichrists” described in that chapter “is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.”
> edited to add: I am the antichrist!
No, I’m the antichrist!
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### Author:  [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/12 "2015-05-05T20:16:24Z")
Isn’t there a passage in Revelations that speaks of fire coming down from the heavens to destroy society? It’s occurred to me before that if St. John (or any other ancient person) saw a vision of a nuclear war, this could well be how he’d describe it.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/13 "2015-05-05T20:51:39Z")
Hold on! Are you guys telling me that in order to be saved during the end of days, I need to have a cable subscription?
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### Author:  [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/14 "2015-05-06T19:13:47Z")
> [@Diceman](#):
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> Isn’t there a passage in Revelations that speaks of fire coming down from the heavens to destroy society? It’s occurred to me before that if St. John (or any other ancient person) saw a vision of a nuclear war, this could well be how he’d describe it.
I find it kind of odd that Israel became a nation once again at pretty much the same historical moment that nuclear weapons were invented.
Before that Armageddon was just a word, afterwards it was a potential reality.
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### Author:  [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/15 "2015-05-07T09:51:06Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> No, I’m the antichrist!
I’m the antichrist and so’s my wife!
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### Author:  [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/16 "2015-05-07T11:20:51Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hold on! Are you guys telling me that in order to be saved during the end of days, I need to have a cable subscription?
Yes, there will be no cord cutters allowed 😃
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### Author:  [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/17 "2015-05-07T12:52:07Z")
For lo! There was offered to them a Bundle, and the Bundle was of Three Parts, but those who accepted the Bundle were locked in for four and twenty months and could not free themselves of the Bundle despite the rates becoming onerous.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/18 "2015-05-07T18:49:10Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hold on! Are you guys telling me that in order to be saved during the end of days, I need to have a cable subscription?
Just be in a area with good Wi-Fi.
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/19 "2015-05-08T02:57:07Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hold on! Are you guys telling me that in order to be saved during the end of days, I need to have a cable subscription?
The (now deceased) founder of TBN believed that getting everyone to be able to watch him preach Jesus on TV might be what Jesus meant about the gospel needing to be preached to every creature, and hoped that th last thing he’d say before the Rapture on TV was his show’s tagline “Let everything that hath breath Praise The LORD.”
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### Author:  [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-but-have-to-admit-thats-kind-of-spooky/719305/20 "2015-05-09T16:35:27Z")
> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> I find it kind of odd that Israel became a nation once again at pretty much the same historical moment that nuclear weapons were invented.
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> Before that Armageddon was just a word, afterwards it was a potential reality.
Well, nukes came first in 1945, then Israel in 1948, but yeah, the timing of that, and then the telecommunications revolution & globalization of everything over the past 70 years does make me wonder how close we are to the End Times. I was majorly expecting the Rapture from 1975 to 1982, then I found there were lots of other ways to interpret the prophecies that made just as much sense. I now think God has a lot more stuff for us to do before He calls it a wrap, BUT I could be wrong.
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