# I don't care about anyone anymore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 12, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051 "2013-10-12T03:35:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/21 "2013-10-12T10:13:53Z")

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> [@lavenderviolet](#):
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> Out of the billions of people out there, there is surely someone out there who is a nice person AND not a total dumbass. 🙂

Just as I suspected. Life has the same odds as the lottery.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/22 "2013-10-12T10:27:55Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> …Or maybe because I cherish experiences like these because they help me convince myself that I’m God and the universe revolves around me and constantly sends me semi-interesting situations to deal with.

You’d think god would spend his time surrounding himself with a better class of people (imagined and otherwise).

At the very least he’d stay in a better hotel.

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**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/23 "2013-10-12T12:07:27Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> You know what Nietzsche said: Terrible experiences pose the riddle whether the person who has them is not terrible.
> 
> She claims she does no drugs and doesn’t know the guys who raped her, but really, one must ponder the riddle of whether she brought this onto herself.

If terrible experiences with other people are the result of the individual having them being terrible, are sucky experiences with other people the result of the individual having them being sucky?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/24 "2013-10-12T12:08:27Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> I’m staying at a hotel in Kentucky that’s connected to an all-night Denny’s (is there any other kind of Denny’s?)
> 
> About 15 minutes ago I met a woman talking to police in the lobby. She told me she got raped tonight by some guys on drugs tonight while en route to her boyfriend’s house. Long story, I don’t get it all and don’t believe half of it, but I might be letting her stay in my hotel room and sleep on my spare bed until she gets picked up by a friend tomorrow.
> 
> Thing is, I don’t really care about this woman at all. You know what Nietzsche said: Terrible experiences pose the riddle whether the person who has them is not terrible.
> 
> She claims she does no drugs and doesn’t know the guys who raped her,\*\* but really, one must ponder the riddle of whether she brought this onto herself. \*\*Most rapes are committed by people that one knows; I’m not buying her story (and, as readers are aware by now, I strongly think that she is an illusion of my mind, as are all of you and the keyboard I’m typing on right now).
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> And even if she is the innocent victim she portrays herself as, is she really too good for what she (claims she) experienced tonight?
> 
> So why am I willing to let her stay in my room? Probably just good old reciprocal altruism instinct, scratching backs because it might mean I get my back scratched in the future by my fellow apes. Or maybe because I cherish experiences like these because they help me convince myself that I’m God and the universe revolves around me and constantly sends me semi-interesting situations to deal with.

\<bolding mine\>

Of all the things you have said - that is the most fucking despicable thing I’ve heard yet.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/25 "2013-10-12T12:38:10Z")

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You know what kind of people suck? Those who name themselves after last week’s media sensation song. I can handle a lack of empathy, but a demonstrated lack of imagination just torques my nuggets.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/26 "2013-10-12T12:53:19Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark, and I think it’s other people.

No, it’s his piss-poor attitude.

All or nothing thinking, like you’re describing here, is one of the ten types of distorted thinking patterns that cognitive behavior therapy sees as the basis for depression. See here:

> **[Cognitive distortion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_distortion)**
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> A cognitive distortion is a thought that causes a person to perceive reality inaccurately due to being exaggerated or irrational. Cognitive distortions are involved in the onset or perpetuation of psychopathological states, such as depression and anxiety.
> According to Aaron Beck's cognitive model, a negative outlook on reality, sometimes called negative schemas (or schemata), is a factor in symptoms of emotional dysfunction and poorer subjective well-being. Specifically, negative thinking patter...

You’re also displaying filtering and magnification.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/27 "2013-10-12T13:08:46Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> No, it’s his piss-poor attitude.
> 
> All or nothing thinking, like you’re describing here, is one of the ten types of distorted thinking patterns that cognitive behavior therapy sees as the basis for depression. See here:
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> [Cognitive distortion - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_distortion)
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> You’re also displaying filtering and magnification.

not to mention a ‘god complex’

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**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/28 "2013-10-12T13:31:23Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> \<bolding mine\>
> 
> Of all the things you have said - that is the most fucking despicable thing I’ve heard yet.

It’s awful to think anyone thinks this way, but maybe it is because he is projecting his own situation and trying to figure out what he has done to deserve whatever has him so down on people.  
His initial question is basically “does it suck in here, or is it just me?”

Unfortunately, many of the traits that have “succeeded” caused us to evolve into humans are crappy. Humans are often selfish and irrational critters, paranoid, clannish, scheming, greedy, etc. mostly tucked under a cloak of socially acceptable decency in order to make use of the advantages of society.  
In spite of this, grand gestures of kindness and compassion abound. The OP, in spite of his misanthropy and unpleasant judgement of the rape victim, was willing to share his hotel room with her, even though she was a total stranger.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/29 "2013-10-12T13:33:31Z")

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So: you don’t care about people; you don’t like what they say or do; you think they’re all jerks; you think you’re mistreated on this message board. So why are you bothering to ask our opinions? Just retreat into your little misanthropic world and eventually die alone.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/30 "2013-10-12T13:41:56Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> Mods: I now think this thread was a poor decision. Would a delete be a good idea?
> 
> Let me know what you decide.

We’re still discussing it and will get back to you shortly.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/31 "2013-10-12T13:53:22Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> We’re still discussing it and will get back to you shortly.

I think the decision is pretty much made. The Mods are under no obligation to protect a member from his or her ill-considered posts.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/32 "2013-10-12T14:00:31Z")

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> [@AnaMen](#):
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> It’s awful to think anyone thinks this way, but maybe it is because he is projecting his own situation and trying to figure out what he has done to deserve whatever has him so down on people.  
> His initial question is basically “does it suck in here, or is it just me?”
> 
> Unfortunately, many of the traits that have “succeeded” caused us to evolve into humans are crappy. Humans are often selfish and irrational critters, paranoid, clannish, scheming, greedy, etc. mostly tucked under a cloak of socially acceptable decency in order to make use of the advantages of society.  
> In spite of this, grand gestures of kindness and compassion abound. The OP, in spite of his misanthropy and unpleasant judgement of the rape victim, **was willing to share his hotel room with her, even though she was a total stranger**.

\<bolding mine\>

yeah - I don’t believe that last part at all - combined with the other statements he’s made - there is no reason to believe anything he posts - so when he posts tidbits like

[QUOTE=Came in like a Wrecking Ball]  
And even if she is the innocent victim she portrays herself as, is she really too good for what she (claims she) experienced tonight?  
[/QUOTE]

along with the earlier bolded comment - well - what do you think?

what I honestly think will get me modded, and I have no desire to give him the attention he wants by pitting him.

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**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/33 "2013-10-12T14:12:59Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> \<bolding mine\>
> 
> yeah - I don’t believe that last part at all - combined with the other statements he’s made - there is no reason to believe anything he posts - so when he posts tidbits like
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> along with the earlier bolded comment - well - what do you think?
> 
> what I honestly think will get me modded, and I have no desire to give him the attention he wants by pitting him.

I immediately considered that perhaps his plan was to rape her and/or murder her, but why not take him at his word? He’s not exactly striving to paint a picture of himself as a caring and compassionate person.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/34 "2013-10-12T14:31:04Z")

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Ummmm…if she was enroute to her boyfriend’s, why doesn’t she just continue on her way the way she was? Did they steal her car?

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**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/35 "2013-10-12T14:44:35Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> Ummmm…if she was enroute to her boyfriend’s, why doesn’t she just continue on her way the way she was? Did they steal her car?

Ummmm…maybe she was on public transportation of some sort and no longer felt safe continuing in that fashion…

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/36 "2013-10-12T14:46:11Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> I’ve deduced that most people really suck.
> 
> Or is it just me?

Nope, it isn’t just you… don’t worry, everyone else in the world feels exactly the same about you.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/37 "2013-10-12T15:03:32Z")

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> [@AnaMen](#):
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> I immediately considered that perhaps his plan was to rape her and/or murder her, but why not take him at his word? He’s not exactly striving to paint a picture of himself as a caring and compassionate person.

because so far in his posts - i have no reason to - you make a valid point, of course, and generally I try to - but in this case - I just can’t.

I read it as one of two possibilites - the 3rd is not permitted to mention in this forum

a) he hoped to get some

b) “hey, look at me, I hate people but I was willing to help this other sucker that I don’t believe and I stated things I know will make people hate me to re-inforce the fact that all people suck”

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/38 "2013-10-12T16:01:11Z")

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[Here, this will cheer you up…](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyJMaUGCBGU)

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/39 "2013-10-12T16:39:41Z")

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> [@Came\_in\_like\_a\_Wrecking\_Ball](#):
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> If you cried when young kids die, ask yourself: how many of those kids would’ve grown up to be the jerks and idiots who cause me suffering and annoyance every day?

While I agree a lot of people (myself sometimes) do suck, what you are saying again reflect on the solipsism you talked about in another thread, the fact that those kids will somehow affect you badly.

Really, it sounds more like you than other people have the issue. As you get older you get better at recognizing the jerks and assholes, and cutting them out of your life. Plus there actually are a good number of decent people out there. Nobody perfect, but people who you’d rather have in your life vs never met them.

Plus people can and do grow up to be medical and scientific researchers as well as assholes. Some kid could grow up to be an asshole, he could also grow up and help solve a disease you will eventually suffer from. There is no telling.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-care-about-anyone-anymore/671051/40 "2013-10-12T16:44:46Z")

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Let me ask you something **Came in like a Wrecking Ball**. Do you desire or crave social interaction at all? Do you experience a lot of fear or anxiety (or none at all)?

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