# I Don't Get and Am Sick of Trans-Stuff **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519 "2016-08-12T02:10:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/582 "2016-09-09T20:18:32Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > [QUOTE=Zeke N. Destroi] > For fuck’s sake you’ve won. You’ve got federal legislative support, recognition and protection - at least in North America. You’ve got a pretty good segment of society behind you. What more do you want? I don’t know what the transgender community wants but I wouldn’t be upset if you shut the fuck up about how you don’t care about something. [/QUOTE] In addition, I don’t know how we’ve “won”. There is very little legislation protecting us, and other than Obama Administration directives to the EEOC, DoD, etc. we have virtually no more protection than we did 8 years ago. A President Trump could (and from the indications of his VP and himself, would) wipe out an array of temporary protections very quickly after seizing power. I also don’t know where this pretty good segment of society behind us is. They certainly don’t seem to be the ones passing laws, hiring folks, providing health coverage, etc. We have much MORE support, there’s no denying that. But even a doubling of a small minority is still a small minority. Meanwhile the religious right has firmly set its targets on us in all 50 states, and is waging a war of attrition against my people, funded in significant part by tax-deductible contributions of hate. For all that Zeke decided that he’d heard enough…he apparently hasn’t heard enough to stick. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/583 "2016-09-09T20:24:30Z")
As I posted in the SPWK thread; > [@Stupid Privileged White Kid Gets 6 Months for Rape, Father describes it as "20 minutes of action"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-privileged-white-kid-gets-6-months-for-rape-father-describes-it-as-20-minutes-of-action/756733/591): > > Yeah, it really comes across as “Well, rape is no big deal and some women lie about it, so we don’t need to hear about it.” > > Which is similar in that last respect to the Trans thread (“we don’t want to hear about it”) and a lot of complaints from racists (“We don’t want to hear about it”) and on and on. > > Don’t give a fuck if you don’t want to hear about it. The rest of us are tired of being told to shut up about injustices we can most certainly do something about. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/584 "2016-09-09T20:36:40Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I apologize for the insult. > > so now, get to finding posts that prove I’m a bigot or YOU apologize for that insult. Since on the weekends I work 3 eight hour shifts in less than 40 hours you may not get your list until Monday, but I’ll see what I can do. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/585 "2016-09-11T04:47:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Since on the weekends I work 3 eight hour shifts in less than 40 hours you may not get your list until Monday, but I’ll see what I can do. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/586 "2016-09-11T09:48:26Z")
> [@toocrazy2yoo](#): > > Nice dodge…That the reality frightens you or rewards you doesn’t deny the reality, it just isn’t one to be acknowledged for some. Really sad when people pay to troll. ---
**Author:** ![Orange\_Skinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3be4f8/32.png) [@Orange\_Skinner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orange_Skinner)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/587 "2016-09-13T01:02:31Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Er… Ludovico technique? WTH? > > _::: start riffling through backlog of memos :::_ It’s the fictional aversion therapy technique used in _A Clockwork Orange_. The eighth hit on google has the scene from the film where the technique is employed and gives a more detailed description. (I didn’t want to link to it directly because it’s all kinds of NSFW). ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/588 "2016-09-15T22:20:56Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Since on the weekends I work 3 eight hour shifts in less than 40 hours you may not get your list until Monday, but I’ll see what I can do. Still waiting for that list of bigoted posts, **Broomstick**. Curious to see if you have the courage to admit you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/589 "2016-09-15T22:30:28Z")
Oh, right - I forgot because, you know, you are NOT that important to me. But just for free - your insistence on trying to reform the term “ladyboy” is pretty damn offensive to me, and I’m cisgender. Can only imagine it was worse for those it actually targets. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/590 "2016-09-15T22:40:30Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Oh, right - I forgot because, you know, you are NOT that important to me. > > But just for free - your insistence on trying to reform the term “ladyboy” is pretty damn offensive to me, and I’m cisgender. Can only imagine it was worse for those it actually targets. I’m sure you have more important things to do, but you are the one who said you would look, not me. Seems strange to throw out words like “bigot” without anything but your general “feeling” but I guess you do what you do. And, again, please point out where I tried to ‘reform’ the term ladyboy. And besides, just because something is offensive to YOU, doesn’t make a person a bigot. But hey, I’m not that important, but just wanted to see if you had any integrity. I’ll survive. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/591 "2016-09-19T08:39:40Z")
Didn’t you get the memo? It’s totally OK to call other people bigots with no evidence and no repercussions now, particularly if they have a Non-Approved Opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/592 "2016-09-20T02:09:09Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Didn’t you get the memo? It’s totally OK to call other people bigots with no evidence and no repercussions now, particularly if they have a Non-Approved Opinion. Oh yeah, forgot about that. But God forbid if you say you read that they were a $5 whore, then you are the worst person in the world! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/594 "2017-11-25T23:28:51Z")
> [@My\_Dog\_Jack](#): > > Look, I understand that people have different ideas about what gender is supposed to be. That’s fine. That’s the choice of that individual and the choice of the people they choose to spend time with. However, the trans community and the gay community love to crow together about what is right and or wrong… What is moral and what is not… The gay community has never been there in the past for feminism, nor for black rights nor for the rights of the impoverished. It’s disingenuous to believe for a minute that the gay community has been anywhere else other than under a rock when it comes to equality of rights. Only recently, with the advent of the Headless Lobby --the Four Horsemen of The Misguided—marxists, homosexuals, transgenders and third wave feminists… The Rainbow Gestapo… Only since these groups started aligning themselves have the received any attention… Once in awhile they’ll infiltrate a BLM protest to get some extra press, or they’ll attack a dude wearing a Skynard shirt in Jacksonville but other than that, LBGT trans rights are a paper tiger that no one really cares about. > > First, most people don’t know the stats… In Canada I listen to the idiot friends of my girlfriend scream about how many transgenders are murdered every year in Canada… I call bullshit because the stats were just released by a UK based organisation that tracks transgender murders around the world and oh, horror of horrors Canada had ONE!!! Ha! ONE!!! And that one was a dude, dressed as a woman, working as a hooker, soliciting men… That person wasn’t murdered because they were trans, they were done in because they were a hooker… It was a sex worker crime… > > Next, as a striaght male, I can tell you that between 2008 and 2011, 3000 men died in industrial related accidents, predominately in construction… The entire LBGT movement might gain a little more credibility if they took a minute to think about the hospital that us straight, rednecks built so that their sick pals and friends that wanna chop their bits off can be cared for… How about the oil patch… When an tranny comes to Fort Mac and takes a job and stands up for my friends that lose limbs weekly, maybe I’ll help out… What about the time that a disgusting, transgendered freak on a bike almost cost me my life because she/he/it, decided that construction workers were okat to kick and spit on.? This low life almost knocked me into a 4 storey fall into a subway tunnel from street level, so NO, I don’t think most trans people are anything more than meat bags…How about the kid that fell 50 storey while building a condo that, unsurprisingly, was sold predominately to gay couples… Does he get a plack or an international day of rememberance? Not ever… The LBGT community cares only about their own selfish interests and frankly, guys like me… The ones that used to be open minded, are finished with LBGT people… > > I once had a gay room-mate and another gay pal… I stood up for their rights… One constantly sexually harrassed me, the other kept offering me blow jobs and after awhile, it stops being funny… Ive been sexually harrassed at PRIDE weekend, grabbed, groped and kissed… The gay community is like Harvey Weinstein on steroids… Predatory, selfish and offensively ugly… They take zero responsibility for their actions and the consequences that result from them… > > Other than that… do what you want. You just won’t do it in my home or in my presence. If you sit next to me in a restaurant, I can get up move----shouldn’t bother you, right? Because it’s my choice to change my seat, right? Free of judgement, right? If I’m having a party and a guest brings a transgender into my home uninvited, I can escort the transgender out, right? If they don’t want to leave, I can force them, right? Because it’s my house, right? > > Look, you can have your oddball lives… I don’t care. It sickens me, but that’s my issue, not yours. I can deal with it. Just leave me out of it. > > Your actions result in consequences. Good or bad, every one knows that they have to steer their own ship. I don’t hate you but keep it up and you might just get me there… (And believe me… Just so you know, your anecdotes would be more honest sounding if they were toned down two or three notches. They would still sound dishonest, but less so. Also, half of them have nothing to do with the bias that you’re determined to maintain. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/595 "2017-11-25T23:39:13Z")
Someone left the retard faucet on again. The drips have become a flood. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/596 "2017-11-26T00:10:37Z")
> [@My\_Dog\_Jack](#): > > I can deal with it. Apparently you can’t ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/597 "2017-11-26T00:42:58Z")
Anyone got any good recipes? I found something: CHOCOLATE BLITZEN 1/2 oz. (15ml) Vodka 1/2 oz. (15ml) Dark Creme de Cacao 1 oz. (30ml) Baileys Irish Cream 1 1/2 Cup Chocolate Ice Cream Chocolate Sprinkles 2 oz. (60ml) Melting Chocolate 1. Rim glass with hot melted chocolate and dip in chocolate sprinkles. 2. Blend vodka, creme de cacao, baileys and ice cream. Do not blend the ice cream completely to a liquid. Let it maintain some of it’s thickness. 3. Pour into chocolate rimmed glass and add sprinkles on top (Note: have never tried this) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/598 "2017-11-26T00:49:32Z")
What’s the best breakfast wine? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/599 "2017-11-26T04:30:18Z")
I, for one, support better construction safety procedures. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/600 "2017-11-26T04:54:42Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > What’s the best breakfast wine? I’d suggest Irish Coffee rather than wine. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/601 "2017-11-26T04:57:24Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > What’s the best breakfast wine? Thunderbird? ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519/602 "2017-11-26T11:26:21Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > What’s the best breakfast wine? I don’t know about wine, but there are some nice maple-flavored breakfast whiskeys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-get-and-am-sick-of-trans-stuff/762519.md?page=31)