# I don't give a FUCK if your car is "For Sale" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 6, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592 "2006-08-06T19:30:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/101 "2006-08-08T06:13:47Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Hey, Indiana could be one giant car dump and you’d _still_ be a jerk. Aw, your mommy’s gonna wash your mouth out of soap for that one, Bry. 🙂 :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/102 "2006-08-08T06:14:48Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > I don’t think it’s the “asshole” that’s the problem, it’s the gibberish. What’s so unclear about the following? FUCK YOU. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/103 "2006-08-08T06:18:01Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Look at Illinois and Westfield. Investigate the facts. Where I say there are cars, there are cars. Everyone is trying to invalidate this truth by calling it a “rant.” A “rant” is not made of glass and steel. Cars are. > > And this is the fuckin’ Pit, anyway. What the fuck?! I said, you should find some other way to deal with the problem. No one here can help you, because we’re not in a position to do so. **Shut down your computer before it’s too late.** On preview, it may already be too late. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/104 "2006-08-08T06:22:12Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Look at Illinois and Westfield. Investigate the facts. Where I say there are cars, there are cars. Everyone is trying to invalidate this truth by calling it a “rant.” A “rant” is not made of glass and steel. Cars are. _Mu_. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/105 "2006-08-08T06:22:36Z")
Somebody check Aeschines’ VIN. I think his brain has been stolen. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/106 "2006-08-08T06:26:37Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > So, you’ve never been to Indiana but feel free to comment. Where’s Alaska, man? That’s like part of fuckin’ Canada! Which really is part of the USA, but that’s a different story. > > In any case, start learning about what the fuck you’re talking about before you start fucking talking about it, got it? Dang, they were right, you ARE hilarious. But, for the record, I didn’t start “talking about it”, I was answering your question of "don’t you see the shit here in the City " (paraphrased). And to which I answered "no, I haven’t, I’ve not been there. Second part of my post I still wasn’t “talking about it” I was ASKING about it, as in, what are YOU talking about? You aren’t making any sense. At All. First you talk about “beaters”, which may be different in Indianapolis than they are here, but here they are old beat up cars, but then, you go on to mention a Benz, which are decidedly NOT beaters. Then, you go off into the unintelligible mumble of insanity. You CLAIM that what you are talking about is from the OP. but the OP mentions nothing about falcons, worms, eyeless zombie ladies in zombie mansions or any of that. So clearly you really are NOT talking about the OP. So my question is reasonable, what is it that you ARE actually talking about, For Sale signs, or the decline in your aforementioned Meridian block? ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/107 "2006-08-08T06:28:50Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Oh, and I thought the Tower of Babel didn’t crumble; it just didn’t get finished. It was supposed to reach all the way to heaven, and god didn’t want that to happen, so he fixed it so that everyone spoke different languages and couldn’t communicate. Right? Biblical-minded Dopers, by all means correct me if I’m wrong. Nope, you’re right, it just got left unfinished (at least according the King James version), although due to physics and age and all that stuff, it probably eventually crumbled. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/108 "2006-08-08T06:33:52Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Look at Illinois and Westfield. Investigate the facts. Where I say there are cars, there are cars. Everyone is trying to invalidate this truth by calling it a “rant.” A “rant” is not made of glass and steel. Cars are. > > And this is the fuckin’ Pit, anyway. What the fuck?! I already answered this question for you on the first page. It is NOT that you’re complaining about too many junky cars being eyesores on lawns and such. THAT would be a reasonable and understandable rant. We agree with your “truth” o n that one point, junky looking cars on lawns and such ARE ugly. The reason you’re having so much trouble here is that that is NOT what your OP says, or what your subsequent posts describe. At least not for the most part, you’re instead going off on tangents that have nothing to do with what you’re really wanting to pit. It’s as if you were ranting about stray dogs (understandable and something others could support) but concentrated on how ugly their collars were, rather than discuss or rant about their being strays in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/109 "2006-08-08T06:55:25Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > It’s funny, you bunch of naysayers, as though all I’m saying we’re just a bunch of bull. Yesterday I took note of the gas station stationed at Illinois St. and Westfield Blvd. Gue’ wha’? Fuckin’ beater car with “For Sale” painted on the windshield! > > Hey, who needs C-5 zoning when you can just turn a C-4 gas station into an impromptu outside storage lot? > > You can go see for yourself if you doubt it, if you live in this troubled city! Oh, and I was on Broad Ripple Ave. (which turns into 62nd St.) going west and… and… literally 10 or so cop cars going 90 mph up and down the street in a high-speed chase! Right by me several times! I think they got the guy. We’ll see what the morning paper tells us. > > So I have NO PATIENCE for a bunch of invalidating, doubting mutherfuckers like you all and your goddamn wisecracks! You’re like the ignorant fucks on the Lusitania pooh-poohing the War and the dangers involved, sipping champagne cocktails, and suddenly BOO-WHAM and it’s Freedom Fries and Victory Pups under the leadership of George W. Bush. All of a sudden! > > When it’s _personal_, you’re all over the Pit and MPSIMS and boo hoo and life ain’t fair. My boss stuck his dick in me, isn’t that sexual harrassment! A midget on the subway was checking out my package or my tits–I feel SO VIOLATED! > > But NOOO, I’m the one insensitve to poverty, right here in this thread. Hyeah, right. If a beater were in your own front yard, you’d be oh so BEATER IN MY YARD, oh oh oh oh! And everyone one on the SDMB would be doing the reacharound for you, too. > > Stupid fuckers. Let me get this straight. There was a bull fucking a beater while painting the windshield next to a gas station that sells C4. If I care to see this for myself I’ll see 10 cops chasing after people who sell beater cars. I can read about this in the paper. You do not wait for people who have sex with Muthers (that’s a bird right?). Sorry, after that all I heard was “blah-blah-blah”. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/110 "2006-08-08T07:10:51Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Second part of my post I still wasn’t “talking about it” I was ASKING about it, as in, what are YOU talking about? But if neither of us know what we’re talking about, then what the fuck are you asking about? And are you interested in knowing the true truth (!= the false truth), or are you merely curious, which almost always leads to the false truth? > [@](#): > > First you talk about “beaters”, which may be different in Indianapolis than they are here, but here they are old beat up cars, but then, you go on to mention a Benz, which are decidedly NOT beaters. A Benz can’t be an “old beat up car”? WTF?! > [@](#): > > Then, you go off into the unintelligible mumble of insanity. There is nothing the least bit incorect about my observations. THAT’s the frickin’ issue. If I’m right about this city and what’s wrong with it, then all else follows. Cheap invalidation like what’s going on in this thread is what leads to the problem in the first place. A dead car is a scar, period. > [@](#): > > You CLAIM that what you are talking about is from the OP. but the OP mentions nothing about falcons, worms, eyeless zombie ladies in zombie mansions or any of that. So clearly you really are NOT talking about the OP. It all follows. This is the city of the walking dead–a _beautiful_ city, one with _enormous_ potential–but nevertheless crumbling like Babel before my eye. All my observations are on target. Carmel to the north is like the still-living flesh, while Marion County rots. It’s the biggest fuckin’ travesty ever. Don’t get me started on Fishers, that’s Plasticland. > [@](#): > > So my question is reasonable, what is it that you ARE actually talking about, For Sale signs, or the decline in your aforementioned Meridian block? I don’t live on Meridian St., I live further to the west. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/111 "2006-08-08T07:12:12Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > There was a bull fucking a beater while painting the windshield next to a gas station that sells C4. If I care to see this for myself I’ll see 10 cops chasing after people who sell beater cars. I can read about this in the paper. Mmm hmm, whatever helps you sleep at night, numberchild. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/112 "2006-08-08T07:18:55Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > But if neither of us know what we’re talking about, then what the fuck are you asking about? If you don’t know what you’re talking about, then shuddup. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/113 "2006-08-08T07:22:39Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > But if neither of us know what we’re talking about, then what the fuck are you asking about? And are you interested in knowing the true truth (!= the false truth), or are you merely curious, which almost always leads to the false truth? I know what I’m talking about, but because you are not making yourself clear, and are going off onto tangents about things other than your main rant, I do not know what YOU are talking about. > [@](#): > > A Benz can’t be an “old beat up car”? WTF?! I suppose so. So in that case, my very first post to you about how you claimed you weren’t talking about poor people would be spot on. You spend more time trashing them, than about the subject you keep claiming is your main beef. > [@](#): > > There is nothing the least bit incorect about my observations. THAT’s the frickin’ issue. If I’m right about this city and what’s wrong with it, then all else follows. I haven’t said you were incorrect. As far as I can see, neither has anyone else. What we HAVE said is that whatever it is that you are TRYING to complain about is getting lost in rather insane sounding gibberish. Had you written the thread and stated something along the lines of “Get Rid of Junky looking cars and other issue which are trashing the city” it would have made sense. What you did was complain about For Sale Signs, and go off into a tangent about people who wouldn’t pay for a newspaper ad, and other poor people bashing nonsense. > [@](#): > > Cheap invalidation like what’s going on in this thread is what leads to the problem in the first place. Again, had you been clear, instead of trying to be all poetic, or whatever you wouldn’t BE getting “invalidated” and made fun of. It’s not the subject matter it’s the way you’re handling it. > [@](#): > > A dead car is a scar, period. It all follows. No one is disagreeing with that. > [@](#): > > This is the city of the walking dead–a _beautiful_ city, one with _enormous_ potential–but nevertheless crumbling like Babel before my eye. All my observations are on target. Carmel to the north is like the still-living flesh, while Marion County rots. It’s the biggest fuckin’ travesty ever. Don’t get me started on Fishers, that’s Plasticland.I don’t live on Meridian St., I live further to the west. Okay dokay. So, like I said in my post, there are issues in your city dealing with the decline of its looks and property. So SAY that then. Rant about it. What you were doing was making very little sense. Bringing all this gibberish about falcoms, eyeless geriatic zombies and the like is just YOU invalidating your own rant. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/114 "2006-08-08T07:23:24Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > If you don’t know what you’re talking about, then shuddup. If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t be edifying you slobs. Why are you in this thread, anyway? If you’re not here to soak up the FACTS, then fuck off! ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/115 "2006-08-08T07:23:36Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > This is the city of the walking dead–a _beautiful_ city, one with _enormous_ potential–but nevertheless crumbling like Babel before my eye. I think with all the zombies, cars with FOR SALE signs would be the least of your worries. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/116 "2006-08-08T07:27:54Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t be edifying you slobs. Why are you in this thread, anyway? If you’re not here to soak up the FACTS, then fuck off! **Aeschines** , you’re clearly very frustrated. The responses you’re getting in this thread seem to be increasing your frustation. Your posts elicit more of the responses that are frustrating you. Solution: Stop reading and posting to the thread. You’re going down like [techchick](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216275). ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/117 "2006-08-08T07:28:55Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > If I didn’t know, I wouldn’t be edifying you slobs. Why are you in this thread, anyway? If you’re not here to soak up the FACTS, then fuck off! **Aeschines** , you have posted few facts here. Except for a few that we have to ferret out from amongst the rest of your oddball Stephen Kingesque imagery. THAT is the whole problem, and again that is most of the reason you’re getting the jibes and smartassed replies you’re getting. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/118 "2006-08-08T07:31:26Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Mmm hmm, whatever helps you sleep at night, numberchild. Speaking of sleep, you should get some. But, whatever you do, [DON’T CLICK THIS LINK](http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=cars%20for%20sale%20pictures&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi). It might give you nightmares. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/119 "2006-08-08T07:39:23Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > I know what I’m talking about, but because you are not making yourself clear, and are going off onto tangents about things other than your main rant, I do not know what YOU are talking about. You seem pretty clear for someone who says he’s unclear. Perhaps my message makes you uncomfortable and you’re dealing with that. > [@](#): > > I suppose so. So in that case, my very first post to you about how you claimed you weren’t talking about poor people would be spot on. You spend more time trashing them, than about the subject you keep claiming is your main beef. Some people ARE poor, Heaven bless ‘em. And some people THINK poor. A well-to-do person on Meridian sticking the ol’ Benz out with “For Sale” on it (which I have seen, factually), is THINKING poor. > [@](#): > > So SAY that then. Rant about it. What you were doing was making very little sense. Bringing all this gibberish about falcoms, eyeless geriatic zombies and the like is just YOU invalidating your own rant. Except that it’s made sense to everyone. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/120 "2006-08-08T07:43:48Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > **Aeschines** , you’re clearly very frustrated. The responses you’re getting in this thread seem to be increasing your frustation. Your posts elicit more of the responses that are frustrating you. Solution: Stop reading and posting to the thread. You’re going down like [techchick](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216275). Bullshit. Quit trying to fit everything you can’t immediately comprehend into the Procrustean bed of “flame-out.” We’re here to deal with an important topic. I don’t care if you disagree with me, but quit trying to globally invalidate my message (you’ll be banned for this, ah hah hah!). It’s a message that is obviously causing quite a bit of discomfort. Perhaps y’all need to look within and see where that’s coming from. Hint: It’s not me, it’s your own sense of fear in our declining country. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592.md?page=7)