# I don't give a FUCK if your car is "For Sale" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 6, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592 "2006-08-06T19:30:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/121 "2006-08-08T07:51:49Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > You seem pretty clear for someone who says he’s unclear. Perhaps my message makes you uncomfortable and you’re dealing with that. I’m a she, and why would I be uncomfortable about junked cars? I live in Anchorage, Alaska far from where I could possibly offend you with a junked car if I had one. At any rate, as I’ve said several times, I agree with you on that point junked cars are offensive. I don’t agree that a car becomes offensive merely by application of a For Sale sign however. My message to you is that you are not being CLEAR on any of your points, spending most of your post going off into the mist and off of your own subject matter. > [@](#): > > Some people ARE poor, Heaven bless ‘em. And some people THINK poor. A well-to-do person on Meridian sticking the ol’ Benz out with “For Sale” on it (which I have seen, factually), is THINKING poor.Except that it’s made sense to everyone. Go figure. Um, okay. This has nothing to do with what I’ve been trying to explain to you, but I guess you’re entitled to your opinion. Back to the For Sale signs. You do like to get off of the subject don’t you? So, what is the **Aeschines** sanctified way of selling one’s car? And is the car acceptable to you sitting in their driveway only UNTIL it bears a For sale sign? For what it’s worth \*\*Miller \*\* mentioned some time ago that many (most?) folks selling something do both. That is, put the sign in the car, AND advertise it in the paper. Or is the the car and its condition alone that caused you to become so enraged? f it is the car itself, why carry on so much in your OP, and OP title about the For Sale signs? ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/122 "2006-08-08T07:54:24Z")
> [@](#): > > So SAY that then. Rant about it. What you were doing was making very little sense. Bringing all this gibberish about falcoms, eyeless geriatic zombies and the like is just YOU invalidating your own rant. > [@Aeschines](#): > > .Except that it’s made sense to everyone. Go figure. If it had, “everyone” wouldn’t have been giving you such a hard time about this. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/123 "2006-08-08T07:57:39Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Bullshit. Quit trying to fit everything you can’t immediately comprehend into the Procrustean bed of “flame-out.” We’re here to deal with an important topic. I don’t care if you disagree with me, but quit trying to globally invalidate my message (you’ll be banned for this, ah hah hah!). > > It’s a message that is obviously causing quite a bit of discomfort. Perhaps y’all need to look within and see where that’s coming from. Hint: It’s not me, it’s your own sense of fear in our declining country. You don’t own this board, yanno. Demanding that people respond to your posts exactly as you would like is, if not a violation of the “don’t be a jerk” rule, at least pretty darn close. Shoot, people don’t get this incoherent ranting about Dubya or the war (at least that I’ve noticed; I don’t read all such threads). And those issues are a helluva lot more important than the gentrification of your city. Again I say, you don’t seem to be getting what you want or need from us. And none of us are obligated to provide it. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/124 "2006-08-08T07:58:14Z")
My guess is Aeschines is a used car salesman OR has a company that makes “for sale” signs (which is why he’s mad people are making their own). ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/125 "2006-08-08T08:06:34Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > It’s a message that is obviously causing quite a bit of discomfort. Perhaps y’all need to look within and see where that’s coming from. Hint: It’s not me, it’s your own sense of fear in our declining country. No, it’s a message that has a serious lack of clarity. I haven’t seen anyone in this entire thread disagree with you that dead, or Junky Cars are a problem and aesthetically displeasing. Every person who has replied with a smartassed post has been talking of the manner in which you are handling posting about your subject matter, NOT the subject matter itself. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/126 "2006-08-08T08:18:13Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > It’s funny, you bunch of naysayers, as though all I’m saying we’re just a bunch of bull. Yesterday I took note of the gas station stationed at Illinois St. and Westfield Blvd. Gue’ wha’? Fuckin’ beater car with “For Sale” painted on the windshield! > > Hey, who needs C-5 zoning when you can just turn a C-4 gas station into an impromptu outside storage lot? > > You can go see for yourself if you doubt it, if you live in this troubled city! Um, I don’t blame you for not reading this thread - I’ve only managed to skim it - but even I can tell you that no one is arguing that cars with “For Sale” signs in them don’t _exist_. Proving they’re out there does exactly nothing for you. What everyone is saying is that you’re making way too big a deal out of them. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/127 "2006-08-08T08:23:40Z")
Hey, _I’ll_ say the signs don’t exist if that’ll make the monkey dance. Dance, monkey, dance! Treat the membership fee like you joined a gym and dance your angry little ass off! Comedy fucking gold. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/128 "2006-08-08T08:27:50Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > …Yesterday I took note of the gas station stationed at Illinois St. and Westfield Blvd. Gue’ wha’? Fuckin’ beater car with “For Sale” painted on the windshield! > > Hey, who needs C-5 zoning when you can just turn a C-4 gas station into an impromptu outside storage lot? I see it now. Cars with FOR SALE signs in the window are sullying the delicate aesthetics of the Circle City’s gas stations. Indianapolis’ cultural climate is thereby wounded, causing the citizenry to drop their palettes and brushes, hurl their smocks aside, and go on 90 mph criminal rampages (by the way, if a high-speed chase goes in both directions on a given street “several times,” it demonstrates a certain misunderstanding of the basics on the parts of chasers and chasee. It’s very unusual to see a bunch of cars chasing each other at high speed go by you several times – are you sure you weren’t out at the race track, or maybe in your living room with the TV on? > [@Aeschines](#): > > …So I have NO PATIENCE for a bunch of invalidating, doubting mutherfuckers like you all and your goddamn wisecracks! You’re like the ignorant fucks on the Lusitania pooh-poohing the War and the dangers involved, sipping champagne cocktails, and suddenly BOO-WHAM and it’s Freedom Fries and Victory Pups under the leadership of George W. Bush. All of a sudden! I just wanted to see this again, all by itself. You know, stripped of it’s proper context – the selling of used cars – it doesn’t make much sense, does it? > [@Aeschines](#): > > …When it’s _personal_, you’re all over the Pit and MPSIMS and boo hoo and life ain’t fair. My boss stuck his dick in me, isn’t that sexual harrassment! A midget on the subway was checking out my package or my tits–I feel SO VIOLATED! I don’t know why you’re picking on midgets riding the subway – _they’re_ not part of the used car urban uglification blight – they use public transportation. > [@Aeschines](#): > > … If a beater were in your own front yard, you’d be oh so BEATER IN MY YARD, oh oh oh oh! If someone’s left a car on your property, call the cops and have it towed. Of course, in your town they’ll be towing it at hundred-mile-an-hour speeds back and forth across a crumbling eschatological cityscape populated by whores (sorry – WHORES), ogling midgets, evil blind old ladies, cannibals, and (worst of all) suburbanites looking for a decent low-mileage Mercedes for Junior to take to college. Relax, **Aeschines**. You’re the author of a thread that offers the promise of lots of fun. If it weren’t for the hysteria, I’d be more comfortable with assuming that you’re in on the joke. But since you’re throwing out the straight lines anyway, it really doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/129 "2006-08-08T10:26:22Z")
**Soup** , I just gotta say man, you kill me, you just feckin kill me. > [@TKOS](#): > > I just wanted to see this again, all by itself. You know, stripped of it’s proper context – the selling of used cars – it doesn’t make much sense, does it? Lord have mercy, that’s funny. Mark Twain funny. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/130 "2006-08-08T10:46:08Z")
**Aes** , I gotta agree with **Canvas Shoes**. There were a couple of people who took issue with your premise that people ought not do money-making things that contribute to visual blight, but in general we seem to be agreed that old cars with for sale signs is generally not visually pleasing. And most of us get the impression that you’re using it as one element in a rant to the general theme of “Indianapolis is spiraling around the drain, and nobody seems to give a shit.” You’ve _always_ had some intriguing ideas, a sort of coming at reality sideways perspective, that used to make your GD posts very interesting to read. But this rant – it reads like “Hunter Thompson Writes a Letter to the Editor on Beater Cars.” While on a truly bad trip. It ain’t the message – it’s the delivery. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/131 "2006-08-08T10:57:18Z")
The other problem with Indiana is the educational system. Citizens of that not-so-fair state are falling victim to a really shitty educational system. Students are tossed into the world without a clue as to how to construct a coherent paragraph. They don’t know how to express themselves in a way that will be understood by the rest of society. That and those fuckin’ broken-down cars at GAS STATIONS. What the fuck. I wish all those Hoosiers would get a clue. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/132 "2006-08-08T11:04:17Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Students are tossed into the world without a clue as to how to construct a coherent paragraph. They don’t know how to express themselves in a way that will be understood by the rest of society. You don’t say. (Or have I been whooshed?) ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/133 "2006-08-08T11:21:14Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > You don’t say. > > (Or have I been whooshed?) I believe you have. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/134 "2006-08-08T11:47:23Z")
Aeschines, can I ask a serious question? How long have you lived in Indianapolis? Were you here in the 80s, when the downtown went to hell? This place was a total shithole for a while, until they turned it around in the 90s. It is so much better than it used to be, a few cars for sale notwithstanding. Seriously, think back 20 years, the city is much cleaner and nicer than it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/135 "2006-08-08T13:12:45Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > The other problem with Indiana is the educational system. Citizens of that not-so-fair state are falling victim to a really shitty educational system. Students are tossed into the world without a clue as to how to construct a coherent paragraph. They don’t know how to express themselves in a way that will be understood by the rest of society. Now, now, Kal - Captain Blightbuster there was just having a bad day. **I** understood him. He said something about um Lithuania, or a boat, and a war, and, um, zombies. YEAH - THAT’S IT! ZOMBIES! I loves me some zombies!! > [@](#): > > That and those fuckin’ broken-down cars at GAS STATIONS. What the fuck. I wish all those Hoosiers would get a clue. Good God - can you imagine what would happen if he drove down Route 12 by us??? Spontaneous combustion, man. BOOM! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Heckxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@Heckxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heckxx)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/136 "2006-08-08T13:19:45Z")
Maybe you should’ve named the thread “I hate crap in Indiana!” I still think you’re pulling our legs, but if you are actually being sincere, to me the “for sale” seems to only be part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/137 "2006-08-08T13:34:12Z")
Dude. I wish like HELL that I could move to Indiana now. My city has problems with corruption, suburban sprawl, urban blight, murder, robbery, rape, shitty mass-transit, unemployment, poverty… If only I could live in a city carved of pure sunshine and steel, wrought with such delicate balance and perfection that it would take no more than a '74 Vega with a badly hand-lettered sign in the window to bring the whole thing crashing down into a writhing mass of filth, degradation and misery. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/138 "2006-08-08T13:44:44Z")
It’s true that Thrillsville isn’t what it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/139 "2006-08-08T13:49:23Z")
> [@Missy2U](#): > > Good God - can you imagine what would happen if he drove down Route 12 by us??? Spontaneous combustion, man. BOOM! 😉 Why don’t you do us all a favor and invite him over for tea? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592/140 "2006-08-08T13:58:06Z")
> [@Missy2U](#): > > Good God - can you imagine what would happen if he drove down Route 12 by us??? Spontaneous combustion, man. BOOM! 😉 That would be a world-class meltdown, baby!!! Up in Lake County…you get \*both \* kinds of blight…strip joints AND shitty cars. You lucky gal!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-give-a-fuck-if-your-car-is-for-sale/367592.md?page=8)