# I don't know what you're TRYING to do, but you're GOING to get yourself fired.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 1, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231 "2013-05-01T18:43:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/21 "2013-05-01T20:02:14Z")

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I say fuck em both. Pieces of shit honestly. In this economy pretty much anyone is replaceable quickly

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/22 "2013-05-01T20:04:08Z")

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It’s really cool of you to wait until you calm down to make a decision, but that guy deserved to be fired on the spot.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/23 "2013-05-01T20:09:52Z")

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**Skald** as always your description of events is detailed and well written. I have no idea about idjit #1 but I applaud your restraint with #2. I have fired many, many employees over the years and I have never done it angry, just wait until tomorrow and see how contrite he is. Hopefully he realizes the error of his ways.

Good Luck

**Capt**

PS I even waited a day to fire the guy who mooned me from the stage.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/24 "2013-05-01T20:17:01Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> I remember one day when I was in the hangar talking with one of the sheet metal guys. A woman who worked in the office walked thru - she was in the marked aisle where steel toed shoes weren’t required. She was wearing 5" stilettos, a very tight shiny mini-skirt, a semi-sheer, ruffly shirt with a plunging neckline, and a variety of sparkly accessories. You could follow her progress thru the building by the way work just stopped - it was hilarious. But it was absolutely the most inappropriate outfit I’d ever seen in that facility. I assumed she had a hot date right after work…

I’m reminded of [Cerie](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qGouqhgFWU) on _30 Rock_.

As for the swearing guy, I’m guessing his mind was just focused on the thought that with his boss on vacation and his acting boss off for the day, he was free. He just shut off his brain and let loose with all the things he couldn’t normally get away with because he figured there was no one around to stop him.

As he found out, it’s a lot harder to get away from the consequences of your actions than that. Maybe some other supervisor will catch you (as happened here) or maybe a co-worker or customer will complain. But for some people all they can think of is _“I won’t get in trouble right this moment! So I’m going to do what I want with no thoughts about the future!”_ It’s the mentality of a five-year-old playing in the mud while wearing his good clothes.

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**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/25 "2013-05-01T20:23:30Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> I say fuck em both.

Now see, that will only cause problems and lawsuits.

**Skald** kudos on holding your temper with idjit #2. I don’t know I would have been as calm but have decided that (if a like situation occurs for me) I will emulate you.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/26 "2013-05-01T20:34:04Z")

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I can’t wait to see what he says tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![papergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@papergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/papergirl)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/27 "2013-05-01T20:34:14Z")

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Here’s our dress code at work (for caregivers): khakis and the uniform shirt and name badge. No jeans, no scrubs, no substitutes: Khakis. Uniform shirt. Name badge. I mean, it’s not wishy-washy; it’s not even as broad as “dress casual.”  
Every single day someone walks in wearing scrubs or jeans.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/28 "2013-05-01T20:39:03Z")

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Good moves with both of them.

I’d have answered “I don’t care whose boss you are” with; “Ok, here’s why you should care. When your boss wants to write you up or fire you, he comes to me to sign off on it. When I want to write you up or fire you, it happens.”

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/29 "2013-05-01T20:41:20Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’m afraid before I comment I’m going to need pictures of the young lady in question – in the skin-tight spandex and only a shirt as a dress, mandatory, but if you want to hook me up with the micro-mini and the sheer top, that would be okay too.

Classy

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/30 "2013-05-01T20:42:32Z")

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I try.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/31 "2013-05-01T21:18:26Z")

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At my first job in high school there was a girl who did not understand proper dress. She was around my age with gigantic boobs who wore clothes way too small. Because of her inappropriate dress a dress code was then instituted (which meant I had to buy nice-ish clothing).

She was let go not too long after.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/32 "2013-05-01T21:38:26Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> At my first job in high school there was a girl who did not understand proper dress. She was around my age with gigantic boobs who wore clothes way too small. Because of her inappropriate dress a dress code was then instituted (which meant I had to buy nice-ish clothing).
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> She was let go not too long after.

It can be really really REALLY hard for large chested women to find clothes that fit and are flattering. I wasn’t there, but I wonder if that wasn’t the issue here.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Woo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Dr.Woo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Woo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/33 "2013-05-01T21:39:50Z")

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If that woman is called an Account Executive, then I (a white female grandmother of a wanna-be reggae singer) should be called Bob Bleeping Marley.

I say you should _quickly_ calm down and fire them both, loudly.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/34 "2013-05-01T21:40:09Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I don’t know why you’d even MENTION FedEx. Are you trying to get me to unleash the bees?
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> Wait, you’re a woman and thus may not be assaulted. Ah well. You must love somebody with a Y chromosome. 😉

I do, actually, and since I’m easily within bee range to you, I must humbly beseech you not to destroy him. I’m so sorry **Skald**!

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**Author:** ![HillKat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/838e76/32.png) [@HillKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HillKat)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/35 "2013-05-01T22:16:52Z")

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**SKALD** to me the first gal is just looking for an excuse to be fired, or has gotten away with pushing limits because of her looks all her life and doesn’t understand why she no longer can. I’m guessing the first.  
However, the behavior of the second problem employee sounds to me like someone suffering from behavior typical of mental health issues; perhaps undiagnosed or off of his meds…  
Just my two cents worth

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/36 "2013-05-01T22:53:20Z")

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If you fire both of them, do it on different days. Why? Because you don’t want them to meet in Human Resources, fall in love, and then have a kid who will one day be dressed very inappropriately and screaming foul language.

Nor, in the short term, do you want someone to see them together and create a reality show based on them.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/37 "2013-05-01T23:06:58Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I do, actually, and since I’m easily within bee range to you, I must humbly beseech you not to destroy him. I’m so sorry **Skald**!

Actually I kind of miss FedEx, in a way. I made several of my best friends there, my work wife in particular. Nonetheless, there was a lot of rancor there at the end, and I’ll never go back.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/38 "2013-05-01T23:22:08Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Actually I kind of miss FedEx, in a way. I made several of my best friends there, my work wife in particular. Nonetheless, there was a lot of rancor there at the end, and I’ll never go back.

Well, I guess I missed that you’d changed jobs. Best of luck in your position now, seriously.

Not just because you have bees.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/39 "2013-05-02T01:03:39Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’m afraid before I comment I’m going to need pictures of the young lady in question – in the skin-tight spandex and only a shirt as a dress, mandatory, but if you want to hook me up with the micro-mini and the sheer top, that would be okay too.

Let’s try to avoid these types of comments in the future.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-know-what-youre-trying-to-do-but-youre-going-to-get-yourself-fired/657231/40 "2013-05-02T03:00:55Z")

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Wait - you mean people can actually be _fired_ for repeatedly breaking rules and being insubordinate? Would you have time to do a short inspirational video for my boss?

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