I’m not.
But I am waiting for an update from Skald.
A long time ago, I worked for a company that had monthly all-employee meetings. The main agenda topic once was a fashion show. A team of people put together examples of appropriate M-Th attire and inappropriate M-Th attire as well as for casual Fridays (both appropriate and not). We got models to volunteer to model outfits in each category and someone managed to get a local retail store to let us borrow some clothes. (It was cheap too, so there was an undercurrent of “We know we don’t pay you much, but you can still look professional on the cheap.”) I volunteered to model the inappropriate casual Friday outfit – Daisy duke booty shorts, a spaghetti strap tank, no bra, hair in pigtails with a baseball cap (baseball caps were out regardless). While that was one of the more spirited employee meetings and was very fun for all, making it fun and entertaining was a great way to drive the point home without making anyone feel singled out or having to be obtuse assholes to administer the policies consistently.
So that’s an idea for managers who want to present the dress code and have the message stick. Visual aids are your friends. Getting real live people to role-play is also really effective.
I blame Hollywood/TV for some part of the not understanding how to dress for work. When I worked for that company, Melrose Place was one of the big shows. We had young recent college grads who were all trying to dress like Heather Locklear because that’s what they saw on TV and TV is accurate, right? That’s how people dress at work, isn’t it? (Uhhh, no.)
If the guy said what he said to ab equal colleague, perhaps you are right. But you just can’t talk to a superior that way no matter what’s going on in your private life. We all have tragedies and difficult times. Part of being a responsible adult is managing to balance those tough times with our jobs.
I’d fire both of them (or at least get them onto the written warning track). Getting warned/sent home three times for inappropriate clothing? If she was concerned about dressing appropriately and/or staying employed, the first one would have been enough. She is indeed testing you.
The second guy - I would give him a chance to explain, but I would also give him a written warning for his behaviour - no one who wants to stay employed talks to their boss’ boss like that.
It’s like waiting for a visit from Santa Claus.
Well, this being Skald it’s more like waiting for a visit from Santa Claus’s evil twin. 
I really, really want to know what happened!
What kind of fucked up promotion gives you more people to watch over and power over the dress code but removes your access to the letter “g”? I hope you at least got a decent parkin space out of the deal.
Not necessarily. Like icarus said, she might just be clueless. In her mind she might be thinking she’s wearing her best clothes to work. She might not understand there’s a difference between a good outfit that you wear to work and a good outfit you wear to a nightclub.
Disclaimer: i am a member of four unions.
Number 2 sounds like a union hothead. If so, grieve him and prepare to get sued. If not, grt him alone and ask him to explain. As said above, he may have had a very bad personal moment.
Give him one chance to apologize. Perhaps remind him that that foul language could cost customers. That in addition to the unprofessional behavior.
If he becomes that enraged with you, open the door to invite the Security person. And have him removed from the building.
That explains why *you *have no job.
Am I the only one who thinks those jeans are ridiculously tight for the office? Really? I thought it was a joke.
Oh well, thanks for the laugh. . .
I’m very interested in hearing about today’s conversation with Employee #2.
Yeah jeans with visible cameltoe should be a no-no.
Nope, not just you, those are too tight. They reveal some rather personal topography.
Maybe the uy whose job and computer he inherited didn’t type so ood
I’m going to hope that I’ve been wrong all this time in my belief that you are a man.
I’m not.
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No, you’re an unholy combination of a lion, snake and goat, but we still love you.
As am I.
Question for Skald: Does your HR manual have a list of offenses which can get one immediately fired? I’ve been at places where theft, hitting someone, and drugs could. The second guy seemed close to that point. I can see where someone on the phone can get so carried away that he forgets where he is, but mouthing off to you is a different story. However, I suppose that waiting to get his direct manager involved would be a good idea. There might be history.
No, give each employee a copy AND have each employee sign a letter saying that they have recieved a copy and will comply.
An emailed memo should suffice assuming a policy that all employees are responsible for information contained in memos (emailed or otherwise). Then on a first offence the memo itself can be printed out and signed if need be.
Looking forward to hearing the continuation. For the dress code lady, I’d say just give her a different dress code than everyone else. For the angry guy, it’s so shocking that he’d behave this way that I’d check to see whether there’s a history and whether there’s some special circumstance in this case. I’m not a fan of making decisions based on a single incident.