# I don't like the new Alton Brown. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 14, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137 "2010-10-14T15:33:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/1 "2010-10-14T15:33:38Z")
I liked him much better as a normal, if sometimes goofy-looking, nerd. He was knowledgeable, geeky, and had a lot of charm. Now he just seems like a sawed-off martinet. He appears more as a sarcastic, iron-fisted impresario now. Can’t stand to watch him. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/2 "2010-10-14T16:00:19Z")
Is it just me? It’s just me, isn’t it? Tell me he’s the same friendly, dorky guy we all came to know and love, and not the tinpot dictator he appears to have become. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/3 "2010-10-14T16:13:06Z")
Does this impression come from watching The Next Food Network Star (i think that is what its called), or from something else? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/4 "2010-10-14T16:17:02Z")
I still like the guy, but yes, I did prefer him when he was more of a normal dude, albeit one with more than a little too much knowledge and enthusiasm for food. He’s still mostly that guy on **Good Eats**. It’s when he hosting all those other shows on Food Network (something in the neighborhood of ALL of them) that he gets on his high horse and looks down his nose at all of us poor-eating, bad-cooking slobs that wouldn’t know the difference between a carrot and a parsnip. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/5 "2010-10-14T16:18:58Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > Does this impression come from watching The Next Food Network Star (i think that is what its called), or from something else? As DC points out, it seems to be virtually all of them except “Good Eats”. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/6 "2010-10-14T16:22:27Z")
He’s a bit pompous on The Next Iron Chef, but not overpoweringly so - at least in my opinion. It’s Iron Chef! I think he looks a bit haggard lately, though. He’s not eating enough! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/7 "2010-10-14T16:25:57Z")
He seems fine on Good Eats, which is the only show of his I watch. Of course, he’s been on long enough that he’s running into continuity issues - he recently disdained using a grapefruit spoon to section a grapefruit, because it’s a dreaded “unitasker”, while on previous eps he’s praised it as one of his “favorite multitaskers” for cleaning out peppers, tomatoes, etc. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/8 "2010-10-14T16:33:01Z")
His attitude on Iron Chef America is one reason I find the show to be unwatchable. I still think he’s great on Good Eats though. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/9 "2010-10-14T16:57:34Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > I think he looks a bit haggard lately, though. He’s not eating enough! He had an episode on _Good Eats_ on the topic early this year. He pretty radically changed his diet, and lost a bunch of weight, due to health concerns. But, I agree, the first time I saw “skinny Alton”, on the 10th anniversary \*Good Eats \*special, I was afraid he was ill, because he looked so thin. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/10 "2010-10-14T16:59:47Z")
Alton is great no matter what show he’s on. He _makes_ **Iron Chef America**. But the boy does need to eat a cheeseburger or three. He took the diet too far. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/11 "2010-10-14T17:01:12Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > His attitude on Iron Chef America is one reason I find the show to be unwatchable. I still think he’s great on Good Eats though. I’ve said since day 1 he needs another commentator to play off of like Fukui and Hattori did. ---
**Author:** ![Snake\_Plissken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@Snake\_Plissken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snake_Plissken)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/12 "2010-10-14T17:37:42Z")
As a chef, I feel licensed to make this generalization…Any chef worth his salt has a pretty healthy ego. If you see one in his/her natural environment, a real working kitchen, this will be apparent. I cant really watch much of the Food Network, because I see alot of stuff that would get you corrected—\> reprimanded—\> fired in my kitchen. Ever notice the gal on Secrets of a Restaurant Chef is always licking her fingers and puts them back in the food? Even when she uses a tasting spoon she will reuse it in preparation. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/13 "2010-10-14T17:41:17Z")
The Good Eats Alton is good Alton, and the Next Food Network Chef Alton is evil Alton. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/14 "2010-10-14T17:44:29Z")
> [@Snake\_Plissken](#): > > As a chef, I feel licensed to make this generalization…Any chef worth his salt has a pretty healthy ego. If you see one in his/her natural environment, a real working kitchen, this will be apparent. Yes, and that’s fine but Alton Brown isn’t, nor was he ever, a chef. He’s just a guy with a show about food that works for the Food Network. ---
**Author:** ![Snake\_Plissken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@Snake\_Plissken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snake_Plissken)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/15 "2010-10-14T17:51:23Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > > [@Snake\_Plissken](#): > > > > As a chef, I feel licensed to make this generalization…Any chef worth his salt has a pretty healthy ego. If you see one in his/her natural environment, a real working kitchen, this will be apparent. > > Yes, and that’s fine but Alton Brown isn’t, nor was he ever, a chef. He’s just a guy with a show about food that works for the Food Network. I dont doubt it. I also know alot of real chefs that got themselves a publicist and eventually became TV personalities. I dont begrudge this, but time spent away from from the game erodes ones skills. I guess it doesnt matter, since I’m not exactly their target market. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/16 "2010-10-14T17:56:17Z")
When he had that reality show a couple of years ago in which he and some other foodie buddies toured the U.S. on motorcycles, there were many unguarded moments when he came across as rather a douche. He was all “I’m the boss and the star here and anyone who disagrees with me is the equivalent of gum on my shoe.” And it wasn’t a self-lampooning, done-for-comedy kind of schtick, either. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/17 "2010-10-14T18:01:15Z")
Never trust a skinny cook. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/18 "2010-10-14T18:08:36Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > > > His attitude on Iron Chef America is one reason I find the show to be unwatchable. I still think he’s great on Good Eats though. > > I’ve said since day 1 he needs another commentator to play off of like Fukui and Hattori did. They lost some chemistry potential when they combined Hattori/Fukui/Ohta into Brown/Brauch. Brown can do the Doc Hattori role easily, and with Brauch’s floor reporting ties things together in the show pretty well, but there’s not much interplay with the chefs or the judges. I always felt this combination would work better if they at least brought one of the guest judges down to the floor with Alton each week to jazz up the commentary. I “get” that they want to do some teaching moments with the theme ingredient, but sometimes Brown’s minilectures seem more like filler than necessary content. It wouldn’t hurt the show to reduce the infotainment and increase the chatter. It’s part of what made the original so great. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/19 "2010-10-14T18:32:09Z")
Oh yeah, and do Brown and Brauch hate each other or something? There always seems to be this undercurrent of animosity when they talk to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137/20 "2010-10-14T18:48:12Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I still like the guy, but yes, I did prefer him when he was more of a normal dude, albeit one with more than a little too much knowledge and enthusiasm for food. He’s still mostly that guy on **Good Eats**. It’s when he hosting all those other shows on Food Network (something in the neighborhood of ALL of them) that he gets on his high horse and looks down his nose at all of us poor-eating, bad-cooking slobs that wouldn’t know the difference between a carrot and a parsnip. Oh, that’s why I haven’t noticed this. I occasionally watch _Iron Chef America_, when there’s nothing better on the Tivo, but otherwise the only Alton Brown show I watch is _Good Eats_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-like-the-new-alton-brown/557137.md?page=2)