# I don't think Aaron Shock (R-IL) is going to survive the endless scandal news **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018 "2015-03-02T15:52:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/81 "2015-03-22T03:25:35Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Your post is beyond ridiculous. Running coach posted a link that somehow seeks to tar Congressman Schock for his vote on NDAA. No mention of the 283 Reps, 86 Senators, and the President who also approved the same bill. This is nuts. The link I posted listed several bills that were categorized as being marriage related in some way. it should be no problem to determine which of those bills were related to same-sex marriage and which weren’t. Stop pretending you don’t understand such things and mischaracterizing my posts based on that “misunderstanding”. You’re the only one who fooled by that act. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/82 "2015-03-22T03:36:03Z")
Was President Clinton “gay-bashing” when he signed DOMA? Were Hillary Clinton and President Obama “gay-bashing” when they supported traditional marriage in the 2008 campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/83 "2015-03-22T04:04:38Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Was President Clinton “gay-bashing” when he signed DOMA? Were Hillary Clinton and President Obama “gay-bashing” when they supported traditional marriage in the 2008 campaign? Interesting choice of phrase with “traditional marriage”. The answer to your question of course is that President Clinton very clearly was pandering to homophobia when he signed DOMA into law in the 1990s and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were also clearly pandering to homophobia in 2008. All three have reversed their decisions and are no longer pandering to homophobia. Schock of course, unless I’m wrong, has not reversed positions on hate crimes legislation, DOMA, and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, so I’m not sure your point in bringing them up. Now, perhaps you can shed light on your own particular beliefs regarding “traditional marriage” as you call it. Do you believe that gay marriage should be legal and recognized in the US? If not, why not? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/84 "2015-03-22T04:23:24Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > The answer to your question of course is that President Clinton very clearly was pandering to homophobia when he signed DOMA into law in the 1990s and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were also clearly pandering to homophobia in 2008. Yet, I have no doubt that the majority of the posters on this board voted for Clinton twice, voted for either Hillary or Obama in the primary, and voted for Obama twice. Suddenly, it’s an unforgivable “sin” that Congressman Schock voted for the NDAA in 2012. It stinks of a double standard. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/85 "2015-03-22T07:47:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Yet, I have no doubt that the majority of the posters on this board voted for Clinton twice, voted for either Hillary or Obama in the primary, and voted for Obama twice. > > Suddenly, it’s an unforgivable “sin” that Congressman Schock voted for the NDAA in 2012. > > It stinks of a double standard. When given a choice between a mildly homophobic candidate and an extremely homophobic candidate we chose the lesser of two evils. Shock wasn’t just asked his opinion on gay marriage and said he didn’t support in he chose to be a vocal oponent and campaigned against it. He has actively fundraising to support extreme oponents of gay marriage. His position is in no way comparable to any of the Democratic candidates your bringing up. He brought thousands of people’s rights into the policall arena. He decided people’s sexuality was his business. He doesn’t get the 'none of your business pass, for himself. claim double standards all you want. His positions were wrong and he should suffer consiquences for them. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/86 "2015-03-22T14:10:16Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Interesting choice of phrase with “traditional marriage”. . Wrong. It hasn’t been interesting for years. Today it’s just sad. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/87 "2020-03-05T22:51:54Z")
[To the surprise of no one, Schock comes out as gay, apologizes for past anti-gay votes (but without using the word “apologize”.](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/aaron-schock-gay-comes-out) > [@](#): > > Former Republican member of Congress Aaron Schock came out as gay on Thursday in a long statement posted to Instagram and his personal website. > > Schock spoke about his years of struggling with his sexuality and estrangement from his conservative family, and added that if he were in Congress now, he would “would support LGBTQ rights in every way [he] could.” > > During his six years in Congress representing Illinois, Schock consistently voted against policies supported by the LGBTQ community, including the 2010 repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” which allowed gay and bisexual people to openly serve in the military, and the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act. > > Although he did not explicitly apologize for his legislative record, Schock said that when he first ran for office in 2008, presidential candidates John McCain, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton publicly opposed marriage equality. > > “That fact doesn’t make my then position any less wrong,” he said, “but it’s sometimes easy to forget that it was leaders of both parties who for so long wrongly understood what it was to defend the right to marry.” Would like to note his dedication for blaming his vote on… Obama. Because of course it’s Obama’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/88 "2020-03-05T23:00:21Z")
Sad that his family won’t accept him. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/89 "2020-03-05T23:46:10Z")
It’s what Jesus would have wanted, though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/90 "2020-03-06T00:29:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [To the surprise of no one, Schock comes out as gay, apologizes for past anti-gay votes (but without using the word “apologize”.](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/aaron-schock-gay-comes-out) Fuck that guy. No, wait, amend that. Nobody fuck that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/91 "2020-03-06T01:03:37Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Fuck that guy. That seems a bit out-of-line for Politics & Elections. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018/92 "2020-03-06T01:05:45Z")
This is as much of a shock (pun intended) as this was. SFW. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UaOVLTmjUo0/hqdefault.jpg "Rob Halford - Coming out report on MTV`s Superock 1998-02-25") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaOVLTmjUo0) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-aaron-shock-r-il-is-going-to-survive-the-endless-scandal-news/714018.md?page=4)