# I don't think I can say this in the Elections forum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297 "2016-11-10T00:33:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/101 "2016-11-10T18:39:55Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > What’s up with you conservative fucksticks who think it’s funny It’s funny because of a lot of this board is losing it’s fucking mind. And the over the top hyperbolic rhetoric you retards are spouting. “Oh Trump is going start WW3 and launch nukes at everybody because, because, he’s evil so of course he is evil and is going to nuke the planet into obliteration.” “Oh Trump is evil, because of course he is, and he’s going to murder every brown person.” “Oh Trump is so evil, because of course he is, that he is going use the military to force every single woman in America line up so he can grab their pussies.” “Oh Trump is so evil, because of course he is, that he is single handily all on his own, even though he doesn’t have that power as President, going to over turn Roe v. Wade and gay marriage and make abortions illegal and deport every non-white male.” Oh Trump is so evil, because of course he is, that he is single handily all on his own, even though he doesn’t have that power as President, going to replace every member of the Supreme Court with KKK members." For the smartest and hippest people on the planet you retards sure don’t know how government works. ---
**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/102 "2016-11-10T18:40:13Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > This hasn’t happened during Obama’s reign… I mean, presidency? Hell no. The same people who burned their Dixie Chicks t-shirts and still refuse to play their music are the ones posting all the Anti Obama memes all over FB, etc. Seriously, are you sure you’re an American? You don’t see this and you don’t see racism. Wherever you are, we should switch places. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/103 "2016-11-10T18:42:05Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > You know what would be great? If everyone who voted for Trump yesterday committed suicide today. Every single one of them. This attitude is why Hillary lost. Suck it loser. Ha Ha. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/104 "2016-11-10T19:14:43Z")
> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > Maybe not. My wife and mother in law are scared shit less of Pence. On the off-chance that my wife does get pregnant, there is a great chance (75%) that it would be entopic according to her doctor and we would need to have an abortion to save her life. They are convinced he will stand in the way of her choice on that, like it’s even a choice. If we are at a place that can refuse the proceedure (like happened to a lady I knew in Texas) she would have to have a total hysterectomy. She’s only 27 and that’s a scary prospect. > > Fucking first world problems. Hold up there chicken little. The VP doesn’t nominate Supreme Court justices, the president does. And the old justices either have to die or retire first with the new justices confirmed afterwards. Once that happens, an actual challenge to Roe vs. Wade has to make its way through the lower courts all the way to the Supreme Court. That entire process will take years. I’m sure someone will have invented birth control pills, condoms or a surgical procedure referred to as a vasectomy by then. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/105 "2016-11-10T19:15:30Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This attitude is why Hillary lost. Suck it loser. Ha Ha. 🆒 So, I imagine that all the “let’s abolish the filibuster, that’ll learn’em” will petition the sitting-duck congress to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/106 "2016-11-10T19:46:50Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Dude, it’s an omgafakeblackguytroll gloating thread. I wouldn’t take it too seriously. Or literally. Why do you think **Omg A Black Conservative** is not really black? [QUOTE=Omg] The histrionics-- the meltdown-- is much better than anything I could have every imagined. I keep bringing it up, but need I remind you of 2012? Liberals everywhere were delighting in the pain us conservatives felt as the idiot in chief was given the greenlight to continue to destroy this country. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I wasn’t delighting in anyone’s pain in 2012, you sociopathic piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/107 "2016-11-10T19:48:23Z")
Amazing how utterly incompetent Obama was in destroying this country. Things actually improved! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/108 "2016-11-10T19:53:26Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This attitude is why Hillary lost. Suck it loser. Ha Ha. 🆒 Everything I have is owned outright by me. I have zero debt and a hefty retirement stash. The only losers in this election are those who don’t have that advantage. I can only hope that it includes fucktards like you, who I sincerely hope loses everything you have when it all goes south. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/109 "2016-11-10T19:56:12Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This attitude is why Hillary lost. Suck it loser. Ha Ha. 🆒 You’re not wrong about that. It’d be fantastic if we could acknowledge as a country that not everybody votes for a candidate for the same fucking reason. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/110 "2016-11-10T19:57:21Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Amazing how utterly incompetent Obama was in destroying this country. Things actually improved! I asked someone yesterday, a hold-yet-nose Trump voter who I dearly love and respect, what will happen when Obama leaves office and had never taken a single gun. She said nothing. No one will say they were wrong and no one will apologize for brushing with broad strokes and accusations of nanny-stating. He will be viewed just as negatively as he’s been painted without a single shred of evidence that he’s done anything to deserve it. And it has me unbelievably confused. Can anyone explain that attitude to me? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/111 "2016-11-10T20:01:43Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > I asked someone yesterday, a hold-yet-nose Trump voter who I dearly love and respect, what will happen when Obama leaves office and had never taken a single gun. She said nothing. No one will say they were wrong and no one will apologize for brushing with broad strokes and accusations of nanny-stating. He will be viewed just as negatively as he’s been painted without a single shred of evidence that he’s done anything to deserve it. And it has me unbelievably confused. Can anyone explain that attitude to me? ‘‘I need to believe that everything the opposing side does is evil and that everything my side does always has wonderful consequences because if I don’t believe this, the resulting cognitive dissonance will send me into frothing convulsions. I would rather believe all of these things are true than address the internal conflict and adjust my narrative to fit reality.’’ Actually, it’s probably more about saving face than cognitive dissonance. You’re not supposed to show chinks in your armor to the opposing side because then people are less likely to join you. Something like that. (Both sides do it.) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/112 "2016-11-10T20:14:46Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > You’re not wrong about that. It’d be fantastic if we could acknowledge as a country that not everybody votes for a candidate for the same fucking reason. The way the American system has been going these last few elections, the margins are so close that if even 10% of a candidate’s votes are for stupid reasons, that can carry the day. It’s not _great_ certainly, and I’m confident 10% is particularly low in Trump’s case. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/113 "2016-11-10T20:18:24Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Why do you think **Omg A Black Conservative** is not really black? The notion of black conservatives causes many liberals a lot of cognitive dissonance. Because if conservative policies and conservative people were as bigoted as they prefer to believe, then there shouldn’t be any black conservatives. > [@](#): > > Yeah, I wasn’t delighting in anyone’s pain in 2012, you sociopathic piece of shit. But a lot of other liberals were. Many on this very MB. Out of curiosity, did you have the same view of them as you express here? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/114 "2016-11-10T20:22:09Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > But a lot of other liberals were. Many on this very MB. Out of curiosity, did you have the same view of them as you express here? Careful; suggesting liberals on this board should monitor other liberals on this board is a Bricker trademark and he might claim infringement. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/115 "2016-11-10T20:22:48Z")
I’ve known plenty of Black Conservatives. They don’t talk like 4chan trolls wearing black colored socks on their hands, unlike OMG. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/116 "2016-11-10T20:42:42Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > The notion of black conservatives causes many liberals a lot of cognitive dissonance. Because if conservative policies and conservative people were as bigoted as they prefer to believe, then there shouldn’t be any black conservatives. Well, that’s silly. I guess it would really blow their minds to know that the dude who taught my course on institutional racism in graduate school was a black conservative. > [@](#): > > But a lot of other liberals were. Many on this very MB. Out of curiosity, did you have the same view of them as you express here? I don’t remember anything about the 2012 election. I don’t have a high opinion of those who mock others’ pain. I think people who take out their pain on other people indiscriminately are weak. Do we all have ugly moments? For sure. I’d say accusing half of America of misogyny and racism is pretty ugly, and I’ve probably done it at least once in expressing my anger on behalf of the people I know who will be most affected by this outcome. But I’d put my posting history up against **Omg** ’s any day for rational, respectful discourse. I’ve never seen him contribute anything but negativity and nastiness. And he just mocked my pain when I explicitly told him I wasn’t among those who mocked his, so exactly how the fuck does anyone expect me to feel about him? Any contribution I have in the aftermath of an election, at least once I get over the initial emotional reaction, is the post-mortem. In 2012, it was how have Republicans fucked themselves and will they be able to get their shit together? In 2016, it’s how have Democrats fucked themselves and will we be able to get our shit together? I’m more inclined to blame my own party for this loss. So yeah, we fucked it up. Getting our shit together is all I really care about at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/117 "2016-11-10T20:46:49Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > so exactly how the fuck does anyone expect me to feel about him? Personally, I’d judge him by the content of his character, if he had one. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/118 "2016-11-10T20:50:40Z")
Let’s all hope for the best but plan for the worst. Bearing in mind that “the worst” can get pretty damned ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/119 "2016-11-10T20:57:38Z")
Seriously, though, if you’re, say, a person on the ACA, with illness you couldn’t afford to treat otherwise, and a voter came up to you and basically said, hi, I voted to strip all that away from you because either you deserve to die or I don’t really care what happens to you or so I can make more money, how are you NOT supposed to be slightly peeved at that person, at the least? Who the hell is going to smile and say, thank you, I respect your opposing point of view? It’s ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297/120 "2016-11-10T21:02:16Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Well, that’s silly. I guess it would really blow their minds to know that the dude who taught my course on institutional racism in graduate school was a black conservative. Everyone knows that there are some black conservatives IRL. (Aka “Uncle Toms” to hard-core leftists.) Still, if it’s a guy on a MB it’s easier to just claim he’s not really black. > [@](#): > > I don’t remember anything about the 2012 election. I don’t have a high opinion of those who mock others’ pain. [Here’s a thread from 2012](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=671395) along those lines. You may not remember it now, but you posted in it at the time. [The OP of that thread thought it worked out so well that he figured he would try it again this time around. Of course, that was when he thought Clinton was going to win. When that didn’t happen, the thread fizzled out.] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-i-can-say-this-in-the-elections-forum/771297.md?page=7)