# I don't think Tom Cruise is gay

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 31, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880 "2005-12-31T19:48:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/81 "2006-01-03T18:23:00Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> C’mon, people! This is all just bullshit rumor and gossip, you people are common slanderers.  
> The real reason you guys are slinging shit is because he dared oppose the authority of your God, ALMIGHTY SCIENCE!

. . . Isn’t Scientology supposed to be a “scientific” religion? (If not, why the name?)

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/82 "2006-01-03T18:53:00Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> \<snip\> and she had the look of a girl who’s getting rogered right properly, and I don’t have the faith in her acting abilities that she could fake that. \<snip\> I think he gives it to Katie Holmes and I think he does it well based on the look I just saw on her face.

I am not up on the lingo. Does this mean you believe she’s getting regular sex, and good sex at that, and doesn’t have enough acting talent to fake it if she weren’t?

If so: millions of regular non-actor women have successfully portrayed themselves as sexually satisfied, even deliriously satisfied. Even Katie Holmes can manage that. Perhaps she took acting classes at the school of “I’ll have what she’s having.”

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**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/83 "2006-01-03T19:47:21Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> . . . Isn’t Scientology supposed to be a “scientific” religion? (If not, why the name?)

NO NO NO! It’s L. Ron Hubbard and his cockamamy ideas. The [wiki piece](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology) is pretty good and explains the “religion” connection.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/84 "2006-01-03T20:17:27Z")

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> [@nivlac](#):
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> NO NO NO! It’s L. Ron Hubbard and his cockamamy ideas. The [wiki piece](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology) is pretty good and explains the “religion” connection.

From **SOUTH PARK**

Scientologist: Scientology is not a religion.  
Stan: Then why is it called the _Church_ of Scientology?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/85 "2006-01-03T20:55:48Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> I wonder about the seminary thing- I thought he was a HS dropout.
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> Could he have just dropped out of a catholic HS?

I dunno if T.C. is a HS dropout. I dunno if he went to a Franciscan seminary. I dunno if the Franciscans operate any HS-level seminaries.

I DO know that HS-level Catholic seminaries exist (like a prep school). Two of my brothers attended one in the San Fernando Valley during the 1970’s. Neither of them graduated from it. Neither one of them went on to become priests.

The ultimate poiint is that it is not theoretically impossible for Tom Cruise to have attended a Franciscan seminary AND to be a High School dropout.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/86 "2006-01-03T21:02:11Z")

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> [@missbunny](#):
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> I am not up on the lingo. Does this mean you believe she’s getting regular sex, and good sex at that, and doesn’t have enough acting talent to fake it if she weren’t?

Roger! 🆒

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/87 "2006-01-03T22:42:17Z")

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My take on the Tom Cruise is gay thing, and actors in general, is most of them are probably gay. Most male hair dressers are gay. Most male flight attendants are gay. Most male clothing designers are gay. Most male actors are gay.

Sure there are straight guys in these fields. I’m just saying, some fields really are heavily gay male.

I think straight guys often try out acting for awhile, but it’s the gay & bi guys who are most likely to take it seriously enough to make it their career.

It seems even though most male actors are gay, Hollywood only allows the few straight ones to go on to become famous leading men.

Personally, I don’t think that’s realistic. What I see is a lot of actors politely refusing to discuss their personal sex/love lives in too much detail. As long as you don’t make a big deal about something media insiders know is a BIG FAT LIE, they’ll more or less leave you alone.

Tom Cruise would seem to have pissed off the media with a BIG FAT LIE, and now even CNN freely acknowledges the gay “rumors.”

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/88 "2006-01-03T22:47:05Z")

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I was wondering, being that Tom Cruise is so litigious (sp) about gay rumors about him; what are the chances that he has people searching the internet for threads such as this one, and coming after the SDMB to shut down these threads and warn the admins and mods about allowing these to continue or risk the threat of an expensive law suit? Is this something we should be concerned about? And no, I’m not trying to whoosh anyone.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/89 "2006-01-03T23:40:13Z")

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Note that Cruise is litigious only with foreign publications, foreign defendants, and/or in foreign courts. The U.S. standards of proof for libel are notably different, and more difficult to pursue successfully if one is a celebrity, than in Britain and Europe.

Especially since the _[Albright](http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-5ZUMDL?OpenDocument)_ decision in 2004, in which a U.S. District Court held that imputing homosexuality cannot any longer be considered defamatory, even if false, in light of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in _Lawrence v. Texas_, and dismissed a libel suit by one of Madonna’s dancers against several publishers. A U.S. Court of Appeals [upheld](http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=04-1449.01A) the dismissal in 2005.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/90 "2006-01-04T01:08:46Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I think straight guys often try out acting for awhile, but it’s the gay & bi guys who are most likely to take it seriously enough to make it their career.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/91 "2006-01-04T01:25:33Z")

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> [@Knowed Out](#):
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> –snip–I said I didn’t think Cruise was a practicing homosexual–snip–

If he doesn’t practice, how will he ever get really really good at it? 😃

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> My co-worker replied that he bet Charleton Heston never did that.

Oh stop. You ever see the way Edward G. Robinson lovingly caressed Charleton Heston with his gaze in **The Ten Commandments**??

I think that what many of us are overlooking here is the basic fact that Tom Cruise is from New Jersey. I mean, just **think** about that for a second.

Wait for it.

Yeah. See what I mean? Clear as a bell. I mean, it’s practically very common knowledge that the only confirmed heterosexual performers to ever come out of New Jersey are Bruce Springsteen and Frank Sinatra. And some of us aren’t so sure about The Boss. 😉  
Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/92 "2006-01-04T02:04:41Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Why?

Who knows. Straight guys think it might be fun, then realize they might have to spend a few years wearing make-up and prancing around in tights quoting Shakespeare and decide, “nah, I just wanted to meet chicks and get rich and famous?”

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**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/93 "2006-01-04T02:11:42Z")

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It’s fairly common knowledge in Hollywood that Cruise is gay. He had a “contract” with Kidman that they would have a 10 year marriage.

His contract with Holmes is 5. So, by '09 they’ll split.

Mark my words.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/94 "2006-01-04T20:32:57Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Who knows. Straight guys think it might be fun, then realize they might have to spend a few years wearing make-up and prancing around in tights quoting Shakespeare and decide, “nah, I just wanted to meet chicks and get rich and famous?”

I say no. I grew up in theater and almost none of the male actors I knew were gay, and I have known hundreds, if not thousands. I think you are believing some sort of incorrect stereotype.

YMMV, but I have a good deal of experience in the area and I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/95 "2006-01-04T21:08:49Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> I grew up in theater and almost none of the male actors I knew were gay, and I have known hundreds, if not thousands.

How can you be sure? I mean, unless you “knew” them all Biblically . . . 🙂

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/96 "2006-01-04T22:02:56Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> I say no. I grew up in theater and almost none of the male actors I knew were gay, and I have known hundreds, if not thousands. I think you are believing some sort of incorrect stereotype.
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> YMMV, but I have a good deal of experience in the area and I don’t think so.

If you’ve known thousands of actors and “almost none of them were gay” then you’re saying there are even fewer gays in theater than there are in the general populace!

I don’t think I’m the one carrying around the incorrect stereotype.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/97 "2006-01-06T02:30:57Z")

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> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#):
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> It’s fairly common knowledge in Hollywood that Cruise is gay. He had a “contract” with Kidman that they would have a 10 year marriage.
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> His contract with Holmes is 5. So, by '09 they’ll split.

[Sure it wasn’t more like five months?](http://people.monstersandcritics.com/article_1073619.php/Tom_Cruise_having_feud_with_fianc%E9es_family)

> [@](#):
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> The news has sparked speculation Tom and Katie could put their upcoming nuptials on hold.
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> A friend of the couple told the magazine: 'My honest opinion is that the wedding’s not going to happen.
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> ‘Neither one of them seems as enthusiastic as they once did about marriage.’

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-think-tom-cruise-is-gay/337880/98 "2006-01-06T05:25:23Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> [Sure it wasn’t more like five months?](http://people.monstersandcritics.com/article_1073619.php/Tom_Cruise_having_feud_with_fianc%E9es_family)

It’d be fun to hear him explain that to Oprah if it happens.

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