# I don't understand holocaust denial **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 11, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963 "2017-03-11T23:15:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/81 "2017-03-13T00:55:25Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Again, the same claims were made in relation to German camps. However, there were US physicians who found deaths were due to typhus and disease not gas. Dr. John E. Gordon, Russell Barton, Dr Charles Larson, for example. They couldn’t inspect camps in Poland as they were under Soviet control. A Google search on Gordon+Barton+Larson throws up a trio of random, unrelated pages, followed by one from [the Institute for Historical Review](http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml). Are you in the habit of relying on Holocaust denial websites? ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/82 "2017-03-13T01:01:13Z")
Warning, bad pictures in links [Typhus must have been horrible that year?](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Auschw01.jpg) Odd none of the guards came down with it? [Obviously this man is being treated for disease](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/EG4.jpg) [Hey honey, look what i did at work today](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Report01.jpg) [Where is the red cross here?](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Maidan02.jpg) They had a rep in each camp right? [Humanitarian aid on the way](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Belsen01.jpg) [I have no lamps on hand, perhaps a head will do?](http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/Shrunken.jpg) [This does not look like medical supplies](https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/gifs2/50575.gif) [So what is it doing in the camp](https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/gifs/13112.gif) exactly? I dont think you can really [downplay](http://14871-presscdn-0-39.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/man-sits-at-grave.jpg) things like [this](http://14871-presscdn-0-39.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/gun-pointed-at-man-and-child.jpe)? Why did they [want out](http://14871-presscdn-0-39.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/gas-chamber-scratches-679x453.jpg) so bad? no gassing right? Were [these children](https://assets.rbl.ms/9417965/980x.jpg) safe? Or these [children](http://crimescenedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/holocaust08-full.jpg) Until 1944, some probably 2 million of the victims were children. The normal MO was to exterminate all Jewish children born, non Jewish children may be assigned numbers and allowed to live. MAYBE, depends on what nut bag is running the show, if you are a gypsy child, you may as well have been a Jew. Do you see a smiling liberated Anne Frank anyplace? No, because someone happily fed a little child to the death machine. Yes, i am sure many are familiar with Maria’s testimony, she saw nothing, none of the bad things ever happened according to her, i wonder why that is? I might have an idea, it might be related to the difference in her arm band, but she is dead now, so no use asking her i guess? ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/83 "2017-03-13T01:14:46Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > 1. People who have died from cyanide or carbon monoxide poisoning leave pink or cherry-red corpse. That doesn’t match the descriptions. By the way… Having had the misfortune of finding someone who died from i would assume carbon monoxide poisoning, car running in closed garage. I can say that i do not recall the poor woman being any kind of a red color, i remember the poor woman being an eerie cadaverish color on her top parts, and when i moved her in wishful thinking that she might maybe be alive, the parts where she was laying on the seat were an ugly bruise like color. Now perhaps car exhaust is not carbon monoxide death, i am not sure, but it would seem to be? And if it matters, she was an elderly lady that began to suffer from Alzheimers and she just did not want to go out like that so she picked her own exit. It was many many years ago, and i went to check on her because my grandmother had not heard from her. So i don’t know, i know this woman was not cherry red, and some how i am doubting a corpse is going to remain cherry red after being say dumped in a pit, or burned in an oven or mass burned in a pit etc if cherry red even is the immediate appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/84 "2017-03-13T03:14:51Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > 1. It was initially claimed that people were killed by gassing in Germany > > … > > 1. Dr Charles Larson, US Pathologist, noted that there were no cases of deaths by gas in Germany. > > … > > 1. From 1960 onwards it has been accepted that the claim about gassing in Germany was false > > … I can’t help but notice the careful specificity of the phrase “in Germany”. How about gassing in Poland or elsewhere? > [@](#): > > 1. Over 3000 children were safely born in the camp. No deaths. This sounds pretty remarkable. I doubt there were hospitals in the untouched U.S. that could boast such a record in the early 1940s. Even in the _modern_ U.S., infant mortality runs around 6 to 8 per thousand. So at this point my Bullshit meter is in the red and likely to stay there pending some plausible citing. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/85 "2017-03-13T04:08:25Z")
Would you folks engaging in debate entertain moon hoaxers, Sandy Hook hoaxers, or the clowns from the flat earth society? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/86 "2017-03-13T04:59:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Would you folks engaging in debate entertain moon hoaxers, Sandy Hook hoaxers, or the clowns from the flat earth society? You are really new… before many thought that I was involved just on climate change, [me and many others did that indeed.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=82431&page=3) In my case I just bother to check where most of the experts and historians are in a subject and then finding if the poster is just relying on many times before debunked points. You can learn a lot that way. Just today I checked a NOVA documentary on how the big time holocaust denier David Irving lost his case. > **[NOVA Online | Holocaust on Trial](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/)** > > NOVA Online presents Holocaust on Trial ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/87 "2017-03-13T06:29:19Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Would you folks engaging in debate entertain moon hoaxers, Sandy Hook hoaxers, or the clowns from the flat earth society? Moon Landing and Round Earth denial hurts no one, there is no victim unless you count the deniers themselves. Even if eventually everyone came to believe the earth was flat again and that no one went to the moon, there would be no great tragedy. I am not sure how you compare? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/88 "2017-03-13T07:04:34Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Moon Landing and Round Earth denial hurts no one, there is no victim unless you count the deniers themselves. > Even if eventually everyone came to believe the earth was flat again and that no one went to the moon, there would be no great tragedy. > I am not sure how you compare? Because the thoughts in a tiny amount of people’s heads have very little impact. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/89 "2017-03-13T07:18:17Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Moon Landing and Round Earth denial hurts no one, there is no victim unless you count the deniers themselves. > Even if eventually everyone came to believe the earth was flat again and that no one went to the moon, there would be no great tragedy. > I am not sure how you compare? When you query the Moon landing deniers, you finally find out who they think is behind the “fake moon landings”. When you query the flat-Earthers, you find out who they think is behind spreading the “fake message of a round Earth”. Take a wild stab at who they think is behind that stuff? And, yes, it does hurt someone. It’s part and parcel of the same anti-Semitism behind Holocaust denial and the other CTs. ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/90 "2017-03-13T08:04:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > When you query the Moon landing deniers, you finally find out who they think is behind the “fake moon landings”. When you query the flat-Earthers, you find out who they think is behind spreading the “fake message of a round Earth”. Take a wild stab at who they think is behind that stuff? And, yes, it does hurt someone. It’s part and parcel of the same anti-Semitism behind Holocaust denial and the other CTs. I can not usually read their stuff long enough to get that far, i can only laugh so long before needing to breath, so no i have never gotten far enough into their stuff to find it was some secret Jewish plot. Amazing Jewish plot going back to 400BC or more for the flat earth people though if that is what they think, i could never get one of those people to explain their theory to me though, they just kept talking in circles with out actually answering. ---
**Author:** ![Chen019](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Chen019](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chen019)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/91 "2017-03-13T09:04:47Z")
> [@bonzer](#): > > A Google search on Gordon+Barton+Larson throws up a trio of random, unrelated pages, followed by one from [the Institute for Historical Review](http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml). Are you in the habit of relying on Holocaust denial websites? If you’re looking for information on a taboo subject then you sometimes have to look at taboo sites. To save you the trouble, here are their respective comments on conditions in Germany: Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. > [@](#): > > “The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany.”…Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them … > > Germany was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor, housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries and few times have experienced. > > _John E. Gordon, “Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945,” in Forest Ray Moulton, editor, Rickettsial Diseases of Man (Washington, DC: American Academy for the Advancement of Science, 1948), pp. 16-27._ Dr. Russell Barton, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. From his testimony at the Zundel trial in 1985: > [@](#): > > “Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren’t deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of diseases.” > > _Disease killed Nazis’ prisoners, MD says," Toronto Star, Feb. 8, 1985, p. A2. On Barton’s similar testimony in a 1988 Toronto trial_ Dr Charles Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps. > [@](#): > > n an 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax…never was a case of poison gas uncovered.” You can also read Michael John Hargrave journal _[Bergen-Belsen 1945: A Medical Student’s Journal](https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=wte3CgAAQBAJ&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=Dr+Russell+Barton+-+typhus&source=bl&ots=ig-E-GYrj_&sig=GepBa7eNGsKAhAyFLWjg97LE7a4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiipv7Fi9PSAhXFV7wKHdS2BoM4ChDoAQgXMAA#v=onepage&q=Dr%20Russell%20Barton%20-%20typhus&f=false)_ Hargrave worked with Barton. This provides: > [@](#): > > There are at this moment about 27000 people in Camp I (Belsen) who are very badly in need of all kinds of medical treatment. When we got to the Camp we were to be sprayed with D.D.T. and then go to the Camp Office where we would each be allocated to a hut…Here on the Main Gates was a red notice warning everyone that there was Typhus in the Camp and another notice saying "Speed limit 10 ph - Dust Spreads Typhus… > > \*\*The floor of the hut was divided up into seven rooms in one of these lived the doctor and nurses and the others were divided up into wards, and these wards were used for Typhus, post Typhus and Advanced Tuberculosis…Learnt that there were about 260 people in the hut and that every single one, including the doctor, had either Typhus or was having it now. \*\* p20 Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary History, which is funded by the German government, stated categorically in a 1960 letter to the German weekly Die Zeit: “Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed.” Professional “Nazi hunter” Simon Wiesenthal stated in 1975 and again in 1993 that “there were no extermination camps on German soil.” _Letters in Books & Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5, and in The Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14._ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/92 "2017-03-13T09:21:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > When you query the flat-Earthers, you find out who they think is behind spreading the “fake message of a round Earth”. Take a wild stab at who they think is behind that stuff? And, yes, it does hurt someone. It’s part and parcel of the same anti-Semitism behind Holocaust denial and the other CTs. cite? AFAIK, some flat-Earthers are Biblical literalists. No doubt there is a non-zero number of anti-semites among them, but I don’t see any evidence of this as a majority factor. [Other flat Earthers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_societies#Canadian_society)don’t really believe in a flat Earth, they use it as a metaphor for questioning everything. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/93 "2017-03-13T09:21:01Z")
**Cheno019** , how do you explain the recordings of Himmler [in which he says the following](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches): _I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It’s one of those things that is easily said: ‘The Jewish people are being exterminated’, says every party member, ‘this is very obvious, it’s in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we’re doing it, hah, a small matter.’ […] But of all those who talk this way, none had observed it, none had endured it. Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when 500 lie there or when 1,000 are lined up. To have endured this and at the same time to have remained a decent person - with exceptions due to human weaknesses - had made us tough. This is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned. […] We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us._ and also: _I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men - in other words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult which we had ever had. […] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political order, this political instrument of the Führer, to also speak about this question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left over._ ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/94 "2017-03-13T10:06:52Z")
As usual with things that cause offense, you can’t separate the concept from the history behind it. So, for example, if someone were to question even one of the deaths at sandy hook, I’d be annoyed, because this is likely to be the thin end of a CT wedge; one which I know to be irrational and upsetting to anyone with any connection to the events. OTOH, let’s say a bomb in a baghdad market kills 31 according to official reports. Then a friend says he’s heard a report that says only 28 died. Sure, that’s…good, I guess. I’m fine with discussing these differing accounts in isolation because I don’t suspect any nonsense CT is about to be delivered. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/95 "2017-03-13T10:14:55Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > OTOH, let’s say a bomb in a baghdad market kills 31 according to official reports. Then a friend says he’s heard a report that says only 28 died. Sure, that’s…good, I guess. > I’m fine with discussing these differing accounts in isolation because I don’t suspect any nonsense CT is about to be delivered. And it’s good… depending on what is considered to have happened to the other three. If it’s “at first, the count was 31 dead, but 3 people who’d been presumed dead were later found alive and did recover”, then ok, those are 3 families which are probably very happy to have their loved ones back. If it’s “28 people died within 24h of the blast, 3 others died within the week”… uhm… that is not really any better. But the people who deny the Holocaust, or any other genocide (including the aforementioned millions of other people killed at the same time in the nazi camps, and yes I’ve met some of those), aren’t just twisting a report or blundering about while trying to be too precise. Some are easily-confused imbeciles; those purposefully confusing them are assholes squared: in one dimension, because they deny the death and pain and suffering of millions, and on the other because they’re happy to take advantage of the weak-minded. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/96 "2017-03-13T10:33:41Z")
> [@Chen019](#): > > Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary History, which is funded by the German government, stated categorically in a 1960 letter to the German weekly Die Zeit: “Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed.” > > Professional “Nazi hunter” Simon Wiesenthal stated in 1975 and again in 1993 that “there were no extermination camps on German soil.” > > _Letters in Books & Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5, and in The Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14._ So? Extermination camps were in Poland. I’m not sure what it’s supposed to prove. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/97 "2017-03-13T10:44:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Would you folks engaging in debate entertain moon hoaxers, Sandy Hook hoaxers, or the clowns from the flat earth society? I don’t remember any Sandy hook hoaxer or flat earther, but there has been debates with moon hoaxers on this board. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/98 "2017-03-13T11:37:14Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > So? Extermination camps were in Poland. I’m not sure what it’s supposed to prove. In a thread of precious few, he has stated some facts of which this appears to be one. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/99 "2017-03-13T12:04:37Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > So? Extermination camps were in Poland. I’m not sure what it’s supposed to prove. That’s what’s called a suspiciously specific statement. It’s not supposed to prove, it’s supposed to mislead. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963/100 "2017-03-13T12:06:04Z")
We should also recognize Nazi propaganda that taught children Nazi ideas even at a young age. So a child’s arithmetic problem might be “A retarded persons cost 4 marks a day to feed and take care of. If 1,000 retarded persons were allowed to die a natural death, how much money would Germany save in a year? For extra credit, discuss ways such money could be used to help all German people.” Jewish people from around 1932 on were increasingly subject to first just discrimination, then outright banishment. So is all out murder not far off? For example in German schools, first Jewish children were made to sit in separate desks. Then separate classrooms. Then separate schools. Finally they and their families were made to move away all together. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-holocaust-denial/781963.md?page=6)