I Don't Understand my Guitar

[kevlaw]

@Scarlett67

I don’t mind C but I’m having a really hard time with barre chords (and I’m convinced that F is called that for a reason. ) Gotta just keep trying and building finger strength, I guess.

I struggled with Barre chords for about a year. Then I got a new guitar and they were easy

[Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela]

Every Bad Girl Deserves An Enema was the one I was taught.

[WordMan]

Honestly? I don’t know theory in any structured way - I remember reading some quote from Joe Satriani where he said something like (and I am sure I this makes no real music theory sense, but it sounded kinda like) “if you get to a dominant in a pent minor and don’t realize you can switch to Mixolydian mode, you are so limited.”

Now, to be fair, I get the gist of that type of comment, but (dammit) that is NOT what guitar is about. You know what guitar is about? Sex. Feel. Groove. It doesn’t have that straight-up mathematical Bach translation that a piano has (fwiw, I studied advanced engineering calculus and love Bach - I am in no way disrespecting the power and beauty of either).

Knowing how to make a Stones song come alive is not about theory. Knowing how to make a Muddy Waters song come alive is not about theory. Knowing how to make a Ramones song come alive is not about theory. Knowing how to make an Yngwie Malmsteen song come alive is…well, okay, that’s about theory.

And that’s my point.

kevlaw, you have asked smart questions about learning guitar in previous posts and you seem like you are doing all the right things to further your playing. If focusing on theory helps you - totally cool, disregard what I just typed and go for it - whatever works, works. But learning different “families” of rock grooves and licks - the Chuck Berry Group, the Hey Baby Group (the old Ted Nugent song that sounds like dozens of other songs), the Ramones Group, the AC/DC Group - man, it’s more about street smarts and not being afraid to smack the crap out of the guitar than it is about understanding that a flatted II would follow up the V chord in that specific spot.

this is clearly my $.02 and if a jazz-head gets on or a classical player, etc. then everything I said goes out the window. But before I start playing, I don’t check to see if I have my charts out - I try to make sure that the guitar is strapped on low enough to cover my Boys and that I can hit a Windmill chord comfortably…

;)

[Quasimodem]

Also, keep in mind that Keith Richards screws with his tunings a lot. (Open D’s and G’s for instance)

Just file that away in your “memory banks” kev. You don’t need to know that yet!

Q

[kevlaw]

@WordMan

kevlaw, you have asked smart questions about learning guitar in previous posts and you seem like you are doing all the right things to further your playing. If focusing on theory helps you - totally cool, disregard what I just typed and go for it - whatever works, works. But learning different “families” of rock grooves and licks - the Chuck Berry Group, the Hey Baby Group (the old Ted Nugent song that sounds like dozens of other songs), the Ramones Group, the AC/DC Group - man, it’s more about street smarts and not being afraid to smack the crap out of the guitar than it is about understanding that a flatted II would follow up the V chord in that specific spot.

Thanks for the encouragement!

I don’t want to learn theory for theory’s sake. I just want to know what I am playing

[jayjay]

Easter Bunnies Get Drunk At Easter.

My teacher was a little eccentric…

[aceplace57]

Pete Huttlinger’s dvd’s have always been very good.

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[Clothahump]

@Scarlett67

Thanks for that! I’m a beginning guitar player also (and also coming into it from a piano background, and having the same troubles as the OP) and am having the darnedest time remembering this. The other mnemonic I’ve learned is “Every Angry Dog Growls, Barks, Eats.” But I always forget “Eats” (even though I know the outside strings are the same :smack: ). Eddie’s sad story is much more memorable.

Thanks also to everyone else for their tips, which will help me too!

Nice to learn new mnemonics. The one I know, I can’t really use when teaching others: Every Adult Dick Gets Big Easy.

I don’t mind C but I’m having a really hard time with barre chords (and I’m convinced that F is called that for a reason. ) Gotta just keep trying and building finger strength, I guess.

Don’t forget your hand positioning. That’s half the battle fought and won with barre chords.

[Sigmundex]

…and Every Apple Does Go Bad, Eventually.

[Enginerd]

Every Acid Dealer Gets Busted Eventually.