# I don't understand the physics of "twice fried chicken". **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 8, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715 "2017-03-08T19:07:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/1 "2017-03-08T19:07:49Z")
I know I like the tasty result, I just don’t understand the physics. So you fry the chicken, pull it out of the oil for a minute or two, and then back into the oil for another 8 minutes or so. The end result being, extra crispy fried chicken. What I don’t get is: Why can’t I just leave the chicken in the oil for an extra 8 minutes and get the same result? What does the act of pulling it out and then re submerging it actually do? Anyone know the science behind this? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/2 "2017-03-08T20:00:08Z")
I’d guess the break reduces the heat transferred to the inside of the piece. So crispier skin without overcooking the chicken ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/3 "2017-03-08T20:04:14Z")
> [@naita](#): > > I’d guess the break reduces the heat transferred to the inside of the piece. So crispier skin without overcooking the chicken exactly it “rests the chicken” and cools it off internally ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/4 "2017-03-08T20:04:35Z")
Or it could be that you actually _will_ get the same result if you just leave it for the additional eight minutes. Although a lot of “it’s important that you do this” steps in recipes actually have an effect, there’s also a lot of confirmation bias and things that don’t actually make a noticeable difference. Few chefs do double blind tests, and if you think it’ll make a difference to try adding the eggs to your pancakes alternating between yolks and whites, you’re not going to be an unbiased judge on the effect or lack of one on the final product. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/5 "2017-03-08T20:17:17Z")
Works with French fried pataters. I’ve heard chefs explain that cooling allows moisture trapped under the cooked exterior of the potato to reach the surface. Indeed when you drop the fries the second time you get “boiling” of the oil (due to water release). This allows the oil to penetrate the surface and crisp the fry up a bit deeper. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/6 "2017-03-08T20:19:33Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Or it could be that you actually _will_ get the same result if you just leave it for the additional eight minutes. Although a lot of “it’s important that you do this” steps in recipes actually have an effect, there’s also a lot of confirmation bias and things that don’t actually make a noticeable difference. Few chefs do double blind tests, and if you think it’ll make a difference to try adding the eggs to your pancakes alternating between yolks and whites, you’re not going to be an unbiased judge on the effect or lack of one on the final product. I’ve done comparisons with French fries. Huge difference. And whip those egg whites a bit, then fold into your batter. You’ll thank me. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/7 "2017-03-08T20:20:12Z")
Here’s Serious Eat’s answer, but they call for longer than just leaving it out for a couple minutes: > [@](#): > > How It Works > > Frying removes moisture from the crust and leaves it crunchy, but you can’t fry it any longer than it takes the meat underneath to cook. Leave the chicken in too long, and you’ll end up with an extra-crispy crust, but dry, overcooked meat. By frying once, allowing the chicken to chill completely, then frying again a second time, you end up with extra-crunchy crust and meat that’s still plenty juicy. > > How to Do It > > Fry your chicken as usual, then let it rest at room temperature for at least half an hour before frying it again. You can even chill and refrigerate the chicken overnight and fry it a second time just before eating it. This is a wonderful way to rejuvenate fried chicken leftovers (as if such a thing exists), and your chicken will end up even better on the second day. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/8 "2017-03-09T09:31:36Z")
I don’t know about twice-fried chicken, but when you double-fry French fries you’re supposed to do it at two different oil temperatures. The first time time the oil should be relatively cool, so the potatoes can cook all the way through without burning. The second time the oil is hotter and you cook the fries for a shorter period, which browns the outsides. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/9 "2017-03-09T10:22:48Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > And whip those egg whites a bit, then fold into your batter. You’ll thank me. My fiancee has tried that, and tried just adding the whole eggs and has decided on skipping the “whip just the whites”. Do a blind test and come back to me on how much of an objective difference there is. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/10 "2017-03-09T12:23:22Z")
> [@naita](#): > > My fiancee has tried that, and tried just adding the whole eggs and has decided on skipping the “whip just the whites”. Do a blind test and come back to me on how much of an objective difference there is. Objectively, the whipped whites adds some height to the finished pancake. Subjectively, I don’t think there’s a real improvement in taste. But I do like the plated appearance when using whipped egg whites. ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/11 "2017-03-09T15:53:18Z")
> [@naita](#): > > My fiancee has tried that, and tried just adding the whole eggs and has decided on skipping the “whip just the whites”. Do a blind test and come back to me on how much of an objective difference there is. [Serious Eats](http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/05/the-food-lab-how-to-make-the-best-buttermilk-pancakes.html) has a side-by-side comparison between pancakes with whipped whites vs pancakes with whole eggs. There is an obvious difference in texture. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-physics-of-twice-fried-chicken/781715/12 "2017-03-09T16:18:30Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Or it could be that you actually _will_ get the same result if you just leave it for the additional eight minutes. Although a lot of “it’s important that you do this” steps in recipes actually have an effect, there’s also a lot of confirmation bias and things that don’t actually make a noticeable difference. Few chefs do double blind tests, and if you think it’ll make a difference to try adding the eggs to your pancakes alternating between yolks and whites, you’re not going to be an unbiased judge on the effect or lack of one on the final product. Cook’s Illustrated/America’s Test Kitchen actually does a lot of the tests you mention- to determine what steps are really necessary in any given recipe. The published a recipe for twice fried korean style chicken wings and found the two-stage process was critical to the overall success of the dish. Unfortunately the recipe is behind a paywall, but I’ll post the article in case you have an account or want to sign up for a free trial. > **[Dakgangjeong (Korean Fried Chicken Wings) | America's Test Kitchen Recipe](https://www.americastestkitchen.com/recipes/8885-korean-fried-chicken-wings)** ---
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> [@naita](#): > > My fiancee has tried that, and tried just adding the whole eggs and has decided on skipping the “whip just the whites”. Do a blind test and come back to me on how much of an objective difference there is. There definitely is a difference. IT’s not a difference I prefer, though, so I stick to my regular recipe of self-rising flour (or flour+baking powder+a little salt) + sugar + oil + whole egg + milk.