# I don't understand what Jenn Sterger is up to (regarding Farve) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 24, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177 "2010-10-24T10:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/161 "2010-10-27T02:43:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Who carries their two year old cell phone records around? No, Dio, that’s not how it works. You have to prove that she doesn’t have the phone records. Otherwise she does have the phone records and they prove that Favre is guilty. Sorry, I didn’t make these rules. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/162 "2010-10-27T02:46:34Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There are zero allegations against Favre. No one has filed either a civil or criminal complaint. Sterger has accused him of nothing. “Allegation” is not an exclusive legal term, so your claim here is incorrect. I didn’t say “Sterger” made the allegations. > [@](#): > > He’s admtted to leaving some innocuous voice mails. Innocuous? In what sense? Legally? Sure. Hardly innocuous is the fact that, while married, he invited a woman to his hotel room. > [@](#): > > The voice mails do not amount to an allegation of anything of any public interest or relavance. Agreed, if by “allegations” you mean legal allegations. > [@](#): > > There is no other allegation, and I have no interest in speculating about the private sex lives about NFL football players. None of my business. Private? This statement, made here, undercuts itself. > [@](#): > > You care way too much about Brett Favre’s marriage, dude. Ah, the arbiter of who gets to care about what and how much. Much time and effort would have been spared if you merely responded with “No, I can’t admit the hero starting quarterback for my beloved local sports team is scum who attempted to cheat on his wife.” That admission (or denial) was really all I was looking for, to gain a little perspective. Ridiculously over the top? I’m being kind. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/163 "2010-10-27T02:55:34Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, Dio, that’s not how it works. > > You have to prove that she doesn’t have the phone records. No I don’t. I have not asserted that she doesn’t have the phone records. I think you are also very confused about who has the burden of proof. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/164 "2010-10-27T02:59:31Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > “Allegation” is not an exclusive legal term, so your claim here is incorrect. I didn’t say “Sterger” made the allegations. No one has made any allegations, even extra-legally. > [@](#): > > Innocuous? In what sense? Legally? Sure. Hardly innocuous is the fact that, while married, he invited a woman to his hotel room. That’s none of our business. > [@](#): > > Private? This statement, made here, undercuts itself. No it doesn’t. Saying I’m not interested in someone’s private life is not a statement about their private life. > [@](#): > > Ah, the arbiter of who gets to care about what and how much. Just an opinion. I think it’s very odd for someone to get that worked up about the infidelity of strangers. Are you Deanna? You’re awfully emotional about this, what with the “scum” talk and all? Would you like a kleenex? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/165 "2010-10-27T03:23:32Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No one has made any allegations, even extra-legally. I’m not sure what you mean. How would you classify ["Brett Favre once sent me cock shots.](http://deadspin.com/5603701/brett-favre-once-sent-me-cock-shots-not-a-love-story)? > [@](#): > > No it doesn’t. Saying I’m not interested in someone’s private life is not a statement about their private life. I was remarking how ironic it was to call this issue (voice mail, cock shots, hotel invitations) private on a public message board. The fact that you even made the statement testifies to its publicness. > [@](#): > > Just an opinion. I think it’s very odd for someone to get that worked up about the infidelity of strangers. Are you Deanna? You’re awfully emotional about this, what with the “scum” talk and all? And mine is just an opinion. I’m hardly worked up about it. The guy tried to cheat on his wife. I’d say that’s one of the scenarios that envisioned when they created the word. It seems you’re getting worked up because I rightfully think an unfaithful husband is scum. Are you a cheater? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/166 "2010-10-27T03:30:21Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I think you are also very confused about who has the burden of proof. I assume that the general rule is somebody other than you. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/167 "2010-10-27T03:50:40Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > I’m not sure what you mean. How would you classify ["Brett Favre once sent me cock shots.](http://deadspin.com/5603701/brett-favre-once-sent-me-cock-shots-not-a-love-story)? As hearsay. Sterger has not corroborated or confirmed anything in that deadspin story. She has made no public accusations at all. > [@](#): > > I was remarking how ironic it was to call this issue (voice mail, cock shots, hotel invitations) private on a public message board. The fact that you even made the statement testifies to its publicness. However public this kind of salacious speculation and gossip may be, it is still gossip about the man’s private sexual life and (absent any criminal allegations) still none of our business. > [@](#): > > And mine is just an opinion. I’m hardly worked up about it. The guy tried to cheat on his wife. I’d say that’s one of the scenarios that envisioned when they created the word. It seems you’re getting worked up because I rightfully think an unfaithful husband is scum. Are you a cheater? 20 years and counting and I’ve never so much as held hands with another woman besides my wife. I’m not a cheater, no, but that doesn’t make anyone else’s sex life my personal business. How do you know his wife even cares? She’s still been going to his games and cheering from the box. If it doesn’t bother her, why should it bother me? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/168 "2010-10-27T03:51:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I assume that the general rule is somebody other than you. No, it’s the person making the assertions. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/169 "2010-10-27T04:52:56Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > And mine is just an opinion. I’m hardly worked up about it. The guy tried to cheat on his wife. I’d say that’s one of the scenarios that envisioned when they created the word. It seems you’re getting worked up because I rightfully think an unfaithful husband is scum. Are you a cheater? Come down off of Mt Pious. You are not the arbiter of what is acceptable in a marriage. You are not the one who defines what is and is not “faithful”. What holds in your marriage may not hold in his or anyone elses. Read the Wiki page on their relationship. It’s unconventional at best. They were married after his fame had already taken hold and based on the circumstances it’s not unlikely that the marriage is one of mutual convenience. Let’s not act like we know what Deanna may or may not be feeling and what her expectations of Brett may or may not be. Stop judging and stop assuming that you are “rightfully” thinking anything for which you have zero knowledge of. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/170 "2010-10-27T11:43:36Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There are zero allegations against Favre. Deadspin has alleged that Favre left voicemails and sent cock pictures to Jenn Sterger. When somebody alleges something, those of us in the real world call them allegations. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/171 "2010-10-27T14:09:25Z")
In that case there are allegations that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl. Sterger has made no allegations against Favre. No one has filed any criminal or civil complaints against Favre, or even made any informal public complaints. There are no direct allegations, merely hearsay on a tabloid site. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/172 "2010-10-27T14:24:42Z")
It shows signs of real progress that you’ve finally admitted that one of your bullshit assertions is completely wrong. When you said there were no allegations, you were 100% wrong. Good on you for admitting it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/173 "2010-10-27T14:30:49Z")
There are zero allegations. If I gave you the impression I was conceding that, I did a poor job of making myself clear. If you disagree, please tell me who’s publicly accusing him of anything. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/174 "2010-10-27T14:31:37Z")
And yet there are allegations. Deadspin alleges Favre sent voicemails and cock pictures to Jenn Sterger. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/175 "2010-10-27T14:33:02Z")
Deadspin is reporting that someone else has made private allegations. That’s not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/176 "2010-10-27T14:35:32Z")
This thread has devolved into an argument over the usage of the word “allegation”. Dio seems to only accept a strict legal definition, while everyone else will accept that an internet tabloid report qualifies under the wider definition. Fascinating! ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/177 "2010-10-27T14:37:51Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > someone […] has made private allegations What was that? Can you say that one more time, I didn’t quite hear you… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/178 "2010-10-27T14:41:01Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > What was that? Can you say that one more time, I didn’t quite hear you… Changing people’s quotes is against board rules. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/179 "2010-10-27T14:42:58Z")
> [@unwashed\_brain](#): > > This thread has devolved into an argument over the usage of the word “allegation”. Dio seems to only accept a strict legal definition, while everyone else will accept that an internet tabloid report qualifies under the wider definition. Not only that, but that an unsourced internet tabloid report is airtight proof of guilt. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177/180 "2010-10-27T14:45:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Changing people’s quotes is against board rules. The Chewbacca Defense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-jenn-sterger-is-up-to-regarding-farve/558177.md?page=10)