# I don't understand what voters Trump could've picked up between 2016 and 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 4, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-voters-trump-couldve-picked-up-between-2016-and-2020/924722 "2020-11-04T08:30:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 140
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-voters-trump-couldve-picked-up-between-2016-and-2020/924722/140 "2020-11-06T14:10:53Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > That last part does make it worse… do people like this see any media outside their bubble? Suppose the Democrats changed their message, would they know? Precisely what I’m getting at. Sure, we can continue claiming that ‘both sides’ are living in a bubble. But that’s not even close to being true. One side still relies on factual information while the other has embraced QAnon. How do we talk to that side when it sounds and behaves like this guy: [BBQ Beer Freedom](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ovMxC8bWs)? How do we bridge the gap with people who listen, believe and support a candidate to the tune of 70M votes, when he has demonstrated over the past 5 years that he is an incompetent, belligerent, pathological liar? Now, @Sam_Stone says we need to speak to the issues and avoid insults. But how can we when we can’t even agree on the fundamental truth as a starting point? A frequent conservative poster in the election thread was presented with evidence about the [Walk-Away Movement](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2627), he dismissed it because it was ‘left-wing propaganda’. Now, it seemed clear to me that he spend virtually no time looking through the linked references, most of which were wikipedia based. He just angrily dismissed it and walked off in huff, insisting he was right [without a single shred of evidence](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2669). Where and how do we even begin a conversation with him? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-voters-trump-couldve-picked-up-between-2016-and-2020/924722)._