# I don't understand what voters Trump could've picked up between 2016 and 2020

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**Created:** [November 4, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-voters-trump-couldve-picked-up-between-2016-and-2020/924722 "2020-11-04T08:30:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-what-voters-trump-couldve-picked-up-between-2016-and-2020/924722/218 "2020-11-07T23:00:04Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> Actually I did read it but dont have the time to do research and show some opposing evidence. However I think the posts on this thread show the walk away movement is real

I’ve now posted something of a [manifesto](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-matter-what-this-wasnt-the-trump-repudiation-democrats-were-looking-for/924757/68) about partisan disputes in a concurrent thread, of which the following is relevant here:

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> But from now on, if a Republican/conservative wants me to pay any attention to their partisan opinions or interests as something worth caring about in a democratic society, they need to show some evidence that they:
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> (i) respect the rule of law and support enforcing protocols for fair governance;  
> (ii) recognize the importance of facts and science as opposed to made-up bullshit, willful ignorance, and anti-media paranoia when it comes to policymaking; and  
> (iii) support a positive and productive program of effective governance for the benefit of all Americans, rather than mere lumpen anti-government hostility or spiteful commitment to Pissing Off the Liberals.

I don’t have anything against urbanredneck2 with regard to criteria (i) and (iii) there, but his discussion of the #WalkAway “movement” in this thread is definitely failing to meet criterion (ii). urbanredneck2, you have been shown and linked to specific detailed evidence that the #WalkAway political schtick is overwhelmingly an astroturf phenomenon dominated by conservatives and bots rather than by actual disaffected Democrats/liberals. By continuing to try to dismiss such evidence with the repeated unsupported assertion that “the walk away movement is real”, you’re falling for willful ignorance and wishful thinking in preference to actual facts.

(Note that I’m not denying that there do exist some disaffected Democrats/liberals, or even that some of them may have chosen to identify with the #WalkAway phenomenon. But the images you’re being fed of tens or hundreds of thousands of ex-liberals spontaneously repudiating modern American liberalism under that hashtag are manufactured conservative propaganda.)

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