# I don't use the word "hate" often

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644 "2022-09-16T04:29:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/21 "2022-09-16T16:12:19Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Oh sure, a skeleton smoking a cigarette and a screaming wraith take the side of the monsters. Why am I not surprised?

That’s just racist, man. I for one will not put up with this anti-monster propaganda, and will be writing a VERY stern letter to my local newspaper about it.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/22 "2022-09-16T16:19:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> That’s just racist, man.

How dare you, sir. I am no anti-osteal. It’s the fact that you continue to smoke against all laws of logic and biophysics. Also, it’s just a filthy habit.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/23 "2022-09-16T16:23:50Z")

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It’s what I get for hanging around impoverished foreign artist types. They’re a bad influence.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/24 "2022-09-16T16:27:28Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> They’re a bad influence.

No doubt. Do you hang around wheatfields watching crows fly over at dusk, just for kicks?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/25 "2022-09-16T18:05:54Z")

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According to Buddhism, life is suffering. So, given the alternative I’m OK with innocent people suffering.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/26 "2022-09-16T19:44:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But not Dracula. That asshole had it coming.

Weird coincidence: I’m reading Dracula for the first time, and I came across this: (Yes, that’s two colons in the same sentence!)  
“That fearful Count was coming to London…If it should be, and he came to London, with its teeming millions…”  
I think that was published in 1897. Is that the earliest recorded use of the phrase?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/27 "2022-09-16T20:02:51Z")

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We’re a good lot; it’s just that we needed more information. If you’re new here, think of it that way.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/28 "2022-09-16T20:21:46Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> “That fearful Count was coming to London…If it should be, and he came to London, with its teeming millions…”  
> I think that was published in 1897. Is that the earliest recorded use of the phrase?

Not according to [Google Ngram Viewer,](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=teeming+millions&year_start=1700&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3) at any rate, which seems to indicate small blips for its occurrence around the 1760s and around 1800 before starting to take off around the 1820s.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/29 "2022-09-16T20:26:32Z")

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Here’s what I hate:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/x1NcjTvemBw/maxresdefault.jpg "Hate Song") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NcjTvemBw)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/30 "2022-09-16T21:30:09Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Not to mention, a talking chimp.

No, I’m communicating via keyboard.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Chimpanzee_seated_at_typewriter.jpg/965px-Chimpanzee_seated_at_typewriter.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Chimpanzee_seated_at_typewriter.jpg/965px-Chimpanzee_seated_at_typewriter.jpg)

(The author at work.)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/31 "2022-09-16T21:33:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> According to Buddhism, life is suffering.

Life doesn’t have to be suffering, and for just four easy payments of $49.99, I can show you how!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/32 "2022-09-16T21:36:47Z")

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People have brought up some pretty hateful things in this thread - serial killers, Hitler, Dave Lee Roth. But what about hypocrisy? The worst thing is always the hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/33 "2022-09-16T22:08:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You know a lot of people who were called monsters were just misunderstood. Like Frankenstein…

Now this is just nonsense. Frankenstein was an egotistical jerk who didn’t think through the consequences of what he was attempting to do. When he did succeed, he ran away like the coward he was because he was too craven to own up to his responsibilities. Frankenstein’s _monster_, on the other hand, was completely misunderstood. He was abandoned by his creator and was doing the best he could.

But Frankenstein himself - that asshole had it coming.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/34 "2022-09-16T22:38:45Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> The worst thing is always the hypocrisy.

We all miss Norm, don’t we?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/35 "2022-09-16T23:14:38Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> The worst thing is always the hypocrisy.

Sure, it’s the worst thing when other people do it. But it’s not so bad when I do it.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/36 "2022-09-16T23:30:08Z")

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BTW good on you all for reclaiming for yourselves the m-word. The so-called “normals” have been using it as an othering slur for too long.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > The worst thing is always the hypocrisy.
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> Sure, it’s the worst thing when other people do it.

Really, I mean how can’t they possibly see that when it’s _us_ it’s _different_.

Though I have a bone to pick with those who try to play the hypocrisy card all the time, I really won’t use the term “hate”. More like eyerolling annoyance.

Meanwhile…

> [@StraightTalk](#):
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> Yeah, I know I was vague. Maybe I should have put this in MPSIMS. What sparked this for me is story after story after story of women suffering because they can’t get a needed abortion.

Hate ( 😛) to be “That Guy” but I believe there are a number of threads about _that_ (and about general cruel a-holes who feel “so what if someone else suffers as long as I got mine”).

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/37 "2022-09-17T00:08:16Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> We all miss Norm, don’t we?

Yes, and I _hate_ it when people don’t give attribution for their jokes.

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/38 "2022-09-17T00:27:18Z")

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I DO use the word “hate” often…

I hate raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens (I mean, those things are always tickling my face and waking me up).

And don’t get me started on brown paper packages tied up with strings, I mean come on, those knots take forever and then you break a nail and you’ve allllmost got it and no, you just pulled out another loop out and everyone’s impatient and someone butts in and tries to cut it with the tiniest sewing scissors you’ve ever seen and manages to cut both of the fingers you were using…

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/39 "2022-09-17T04:32:45Z")

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Innocent? I’ve suffered for my music. And now, it’s your turn.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/qfTlGMCeuDE/hqdefault.jpg "NEIL INNES - PROTEST SONG - Rutland Weekend Television") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfTlGMCeuDE)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-use-the-word-hate-often/971644/40 "2022-09-17T20:08:08Z")

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Well Intentioned Blues

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5Mr3BdadVac/maxresdefault.jpg "Well-Intentioned Blues") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mr3BdadVac)

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