# I fear I'm about to lose my country **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926 "2023-10-22T16:48:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/401 "2024-01-18T15:50:33Z")
Welp, Security minister and failed presidential candidate Patricia Bullrich (who’s now working for the same man who accused her of “planting bombs in kindergartens”) is on full threat mode, saying that her “security protocol” forbidding demonstrators from marching on the street (because it interrupts traffic) will be enforced on the demonstration scheduled for Jan 24, and that it is “a matter of life and death”(!!!). It’s absolutely impossible for the amount of people that’s going to march to restrict themselves to sidewalks, and we aren’t even going to try. I’m thinking of telling my mom not to go, but I doubt she’ll listen, she’s been doing this since the 70’s when the fascists were far more menacing than they are now. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/402 "2024-01-18T15:53:18Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > I’m thinking of telling my mom not to go, but I doubt she’ll listen I suspect that your mom is thinking of telling you not to go, but doubts that you’d listen. Best of luck to you and please try to post afterward if you can. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/403 "2024-01-18T15:56:39Z")
Yeah but my mom is 71 years old. What angers me the most is that this is probably what she’s looking for, for people to get scared and refrain from protesting. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/404 "2024-01-18T16:03:16Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > What angers me the most is that this is probably what she’s looking for, for people to get scared and refrain from protesting. I think you can remove the “probably” from that sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/405 "2024-01-18T16:04:54Z")
You can’t discount “pure idiocy” as a motivation, but yeah. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/406 "2024-01-18T17:05:50Z")
Interesting that Milei got to self-appoint as the one to “school” the world on libertarian superiority. Then again Davos itself is the kind of event that makes you think “no wonder people believe in ruling elite cabals”. Meanwhile my Trump/RFK Jr - enthusiast friend (because of course he would be enthusiastic about both 🙄 ) is like, really in love with the news he hears about Milei. I get it, you want _someone/thing, anyone/thing_ to come and upend the corrupt system. But really, folks, **any** thing is **not** better that whatever’s around. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/407 "2024-01-18T17:12:25Z")
I think that’s possibly Milei’s biggest appeal, the promise of upending a corrupt system, the problem is that he has already surrounded himself with members of (one part) of that same system. Sooner or later most of his followers will realize that they’ve been duped, but it may be too late by then. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/408 "2024-01-19T20:55:42Z")
Maybe you read this type of thing in local media. But the New York Post seems to like Milei’s Ayn Randianism. Plus ça change. > **[Argentinian prez Javier Milei kills ‘em with common sense as he scolds Davos...](https://nypost.com/2024/01/18/opinion/argentinian-prez-javier-milei-scolds-davos-elites-with-common-sense/)** > > Argentinian President Javier Milei’s speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos is a refreshing reminder about the power of free-market capitalism. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/409 "2024-01-20T00:58:46Z")
Well you know about the readers of the NY Post… [![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTQ3MzE3MjgtZWNmOS00NDY1LWJiOTMtM2M4MjBiM2YxZDY1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyOTc5MDI5NjE@._V1_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTQ3MzE3MjgtZWNmOS00NDY1LWJiOTMtM2M4MjBiM2YxZDY1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyOTc5MDI5NjE@._V1_.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/410 "2024-01-24T12:56:53Z")
Getting ready to go to the protest, I’ll let you know how it goes if I have time and cell signal. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/411 "2024-01-24T13:12:06Z")
Be safe Frodo. I hope it helps. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/412 "2024-01-24T13:15:53Z")
Thanks!. There was an order from judge a couple of days ago forbidding the charming practices I described here: > [@I fear I'm about to lose my country](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/295): > > Fascism Watch, Day 10. Today is the 22nd anniversary of the tragic events that led to the fall of the government in 2001, leftist groups traditionally demonstrate in the Buenos Aires city center. Apparently police is stopping buses that go that way and checking the passengers for banners or other “evidence” that they are going to demonstrate… But from I see in twitter that they are doing it anyway, the bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/413 "2024-01-24T13:59:03Z")
Took the bus, learned that police have blocked the main bridge between here and Downtown Buenos Aires, stepped down from the bus, took the train, it’s packed to the gills. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/414 "2024-01-24T14:04:33Z")
Good luck! What you are doing is very important. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/415 "2024-01-24T14:11:58Z")
I took the train when we won the world cup to come to Buenos Aires too And it was just as packed and people were singing like they are now , if a bit less and using different songs. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/416 "2024-01-24T14:33:21Z")
Thanks! Now I reached Buenos Aires proper, but the subway station was closed, walked about ten blocks to the next one and it was open 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/417 "2024-01-24T15:26:01Z")
Marching now towards Congress ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/418 "2024-01-24T15:33:02Z")
I’m watching a live stream from C5N. I haven’t seen any dirty tricks by the police yet. (I wish I had paid closer attention in high school Spanish.) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/419 "2024-01-24T15:47:12Z")
Good luck! And glad that it seems threats haven’t led to a poor turnout. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/420 "2024-01-24T15:54:26Z")
Looks like they haven’t dared implement Bulrich’s vaunted new “protocol”, at leat not yet [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926.md?page=22)