# I fear I'm about to lose my country

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926 "2023-10-22T16:48:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Frodo](#):
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> There is a meme going around in Twitter right now:  
> “Our only hope is the senate”  
> The Senate: _picture of the Star Wars prequels Galactic Senate_

If Milei starts insisting, “I _am_ the Senate”, you’re in trouble.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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We are in trouble already, but Milei doesn’t seem to have the intellectual fortitude to be a Palpatine, he’s just an slightly less idiotic Trump.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
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> [@Frodo](#):
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> he’s just an slightly less idiotic Trump.

Low bar there, granted.

Snark aside, do you think he’s in this for the power, for grifting, or something else entirely? Seeing all our US based speculation on Trump’s initial 2016 agenda motives, as opposed to his 2024 stay-out-of-jail agenda + revenge tour.

Just trying to predict where your wanna-be despot is trying to drive things, while we panic about our own is an interesting contrast these days.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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> [@Frodo](#):
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> just a wag who used google translate instea of a profesor or student.

“People called ‘Romanes’ they go the house?”

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Frodo](#):
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> > just a wag who used google translate instea of a profesor or student.
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> “People called ‘Romanes’ they go the house?”.

“It says ‘Romans go home.’”

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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That would explain the huge wall of graffiti I saw this morning on downtown Buenos Aires…

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Snark aside, do you think he’s in this for the power, for grifting, or something else entirely?

I think, and that’s the scaries part, that in argentinian terms “no tiene todos los jugadores en la cancha” (he doesn’t have all the players in the field), meaning he’s nuts, he’s doing this a bit for the lulz, a bit for the recognition and prestige he feels he should’ve always had and never got (he was joke until less than a year ago).  
The people that surround him… THEY are there for the grift.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/588 "2024-05-02T20:42:35Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> google translate is responsible for a lot of bad Latin.

[Romanus eunt domus!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8) is much funnier than Google translate ever will manage to be.  
And in case **Frodo** is interested in how the situation in his country is reflected in the Spanish press left of centre (the right is unbearable, as you would expect) , here is an article that is so confusing, weird and impossible to understand if you don’t know in advance what the author wants to say – and I am not sure I do – that he may even enjoy it. Or not. The dialogue has obviously broken down long ago. For me reading this (in Spanish, of course, sorry) was a surrealist experience:

> **[La gran prensa se topa con un tardío "principio de revelación" que ilumina a...](https://www.eldiarioar.com/opinion/gran-prensa-topa-tardio-principio-revelacion-ilumina-presidente-soez-autoritario_129_11325374.html)**
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> Una "morocha del Norte" se resistió a ser víctima, pero el agravio que sufrió no frenó, sino que potenció la proyección del ultra. El día que Lanata conoció a Milei. Las verdaderas amenazas a la libertad de expresión.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/589 "2024-05-09T16:45:35Z")

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General Strike!, I’m working from home (If someday programmers join a strike you’ll know the shit has definitively hit the fan), Right wing media says it’s a failure, Left wing media says it’s a success…  
Trains and buses are not working, lots of flights have been cancelled, and most stores seem to be closed.

On other news the omnibus bill is probably going to be modified in the senate and sent back to the lower chamber.

In embarrassing news the new head of the science and tech committee in congress is a flat earther 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/590 "2024-05-09T16:52:03Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> In embarrassing news the new head of the science and tech committee in congress is a flat earther 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

But do they have brain worms as an excuse, like one of our presidential candidates???

Really, sometimes I hate our species. But here’s hoping your people succeed in making a difference, we USA’ians seem bound and determined to go the way of the slow-boiled frog dammit.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fear-im-about-to-lose-my-country/991926/591 "2024-05-09T16:54:45Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> In embarrassing news the new head of the science and tech committee in congress is a flat earther 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

We should all be merry and laugh and party, it is so ridiculous it can only get better.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> we USA’ians seem bound and determined to go the way of the slow-boiled frog dammit.

We don’t seem to be doing any better tough, yes we are kicking and screaming a bit, but the government still has a good approval rating (even if it’s the lowest any administration has had at this point of their term).

My nightmare is that Trump wins in USA and then supports Milei when he tries to do what Bolsonaro failed to do in Brazil (and Trump himself failed to do in USA), RIP: Democracy, we hardly knew ye.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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“Better to laugh than to cry” we say here, that’s why we’ve had so many great comics…

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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I can only wonder what les Luthiers would have made of this material. It is a bit like wondering what George Carlin would have made of Trump.  
And then you remember that some Monthy Pythons and Johnny Rotten ended up supporting Brexit.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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Have you seen anything by Tato Bores? Check this out:  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1rm8I2UT2Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1rm8I2UT2Y)

This another monologue with english subtitles for non-spanish speakers  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwzQdOkwkLA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwzQdOkwkLA)

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That is… weird. And probably true. And funny, in a misterious way. Thanks for the link. Now I need a beer. Make it two. And a whisky. When my head spins I like to pretend I know why.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
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It’s got tons of references that you probably didn’t caught, hell my son would not caught them, but I hope it was funny even without understanding them.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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Yes, the references I did not get were the misterious part. Still it was funny. Prost, salud, cheers!  
ETA: And I loved the cigarrete smole curling the whole time to his left. He did not inhale once.

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For example when he talks about “Juan Doming Cangallo” it’s because the Peron street used to be the Cangallo street but was renamed.

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Aragorn, son of Arathorn, Heir of Isildur, Chieftain of the Rangers of the North saying that Milei is a clown. (Viggo Mortensen lived 11 years in Argentina as a child and got infected, he drinks mate and is a fanatical supporter of San Lorenzo de Almagro a football club from Buenos Aires).  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUFmsR-WFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUFmsR-WFY)

My captain, My KING.

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