# I finally found a use for Old Overholt. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 10, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679 "2009-12-10T02:39:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/1 "2009-12-10T02:39:32Z")
I bought a bottle of Old Overholt a few years back on the recommendation of a fellow Doper and drunk. Vile stuff. Made me reconsider taking advice from this person. But the wife and I have been “cocktailing” it lately, and tonight I decided to try my Manhattan recipe with Old Overshoe. It was magnificent! So have faith…that ingredient you can’t use just might pay off some day. The Perfect Manhattan 1.5 measures rye whiskey .5 measures sweet vermouth 4-7 shakes Angostura bitters Shake with ice and strain into a cocktail glass. Garnish with a cherry or two. The Wife’s Dirty Martini 1.5 measures ice cold Grey Goose vodka .25 measures dry vermouth Shake with ice and strain into a cocktail glass. Add a splash of olive juice and garnish with two large stuffed olives. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/2 "2009-12-15T19:28:40Z")
It’s great in an Old Fashioned, too. (I somehow get the feeling I’m the poster you’re talking about. I dunno, I still think Old Overcoat is a steal for the price. I like it better than the Beam and Wild Turkey in the same price range.) edit: [Whiskey Magazine](http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/old_overholt/whisky319.html) seems to like it well enough, with its two reviewers giving it 7.75 and 8. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/3 "2009-12-15T19:32:41Z")
Shouldn’t there be some dry vermouth in the Perfect Manhattan recipe? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/4 "2009-12-15T19:35:06Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > It’s great in an Old Fashioned, too. (I somehow get the feeling I’m the poster you’re talking about. I dunno, I still think Old Overcoat is a steal for the price. I like it better than the Beam and Wild Turkey in the same price range.) > > edit: [Whiskey Magazine](http://www.whiskymag.com/whisky/brand/old_overholt/whisky319.html) seems to like it well enough, with its two reviewers giving it 7.75 and 8. For comparison’s sake, they give Rittenhouse 8.25 and 6.75. They do like the Wild Turkey (and I do, too, to tell you the truth, although it’s a little “hot” at 50.50% abv for my tastes) at 8 and 8.5. I still maintain Old Overholt is a steal at the price. A steal. And good quality. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/5 "2009-12-15T19:38:03Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Shouldn’t there be some dry vermouth in the Perfect Manhattan recipe? I’d say no. Sweet vermouth in a Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/6 "2009-12-15T19:40:42Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’d say no. Sweet vermouth in a Manhattan. Well, there’s a Manhattan, a dry Manhattan, and a Perfect Manhattan. The first has sweet, the second dry, and the third both. At least that’s how they were made back in the day when I was tending bar. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-finally-found-a-use-for-old-overholt/520679/7 "2009-12-15T19:43:06Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Well, there’s a Manhattan, a dry Manhattan, and a Perfect Manhattan. The first has sweet, the second dry, and the third both. At least that’s how they were made back in the day when I was tending bar. Ah, I didn’t realize there was a capital-P “Perfect Manhattan.” Looks like that should include both sweet and dry vermouth, from what I can find online.