# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")
> [@Would you rather have Ben Carson as president right now?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-rather-have-ben-carson-as-president-right-now/805867/44): > > _shrug_ it’s done now, Trump fixed it, so it’s not terribly relevant anymore. There are Dopers who would say that bit of nonsense sarcastically. But no, you’re really that silly. So, what, your great Christian hero just undid the horrors of the Muslim usurper, so never mind what those horrors were? This is dumb. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/2 "2018-01-06T00:20:30Z")
As to your Thread Title question, would [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831491) not count? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/3 "2018-01-06T00:26:25Z")
Yes, there was the one about him being full of shit. Perhaps there could be one about his predilection for posting only in forumses that guard against proper vitriolic responses. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/4 "2018-01-06T07:40:56Z")
Trump fixed things by deporting FEWER criminals, while promoting 17 different kinds of shitty? I’d ask him to “fix” my car, but I have no use for a hole in my driveway. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/5 "2018-01-06T14:53:36Z")
I just want to jump in to say that I oppose this pitting. **HD** has some bad posts, sure, but I think he mostly posts in good faith. Plus, I think he has moderated a lot since he first joined, not that long ago. He’s still very conservative, but my impression is that he generally debates fairly, listens and responds to arguments, etc. This place has few enough thoughtful conservatives and **HD** is one, or has become one anyway. In my view, he has stuck to his principles but has adjusted well to the generally civil tone of this board. Reading this again, I wouldn’t be surprised if he found this post to be super condescending. I really mean this in a defensive way, not a condescending way. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/6 "2018-01-06T14:54:27Z")
He supports torture for money. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/7 "2018-01-06T15:02:18Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > **HD** has some bad posts, sure, but I think he mostly posts in good faith. Plus, I think he has moderated a lot since he first joined, not that long ago. He’s still very conservative, but my impression is that he generally debates fairly, listens and responds to arguments, etc I agree with this. I feel this way about a lot of conservative posters that people hate. I want people I don’t agree with to post here. But that doesn’t mean nothing they (he) has said isn’t Pitworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/8 "2018-01-06T15:23:57Z")
It’s like we need a pit reason to pit **Octopus** ’ older brother? Seriously, they are from the same nest. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/9 "2018-01-06T16:35:23Z")
Pit fail. **Hurricane Ditka** is smarter than the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/10 "2018-01-06T19:22:43Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Pit fail. **Hurricane Ditka** is smarter than the OP. Talk about damning with faint praise… Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/11 "2018-01-06T23:20:34Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Pit fail. **Hurricane Ditka** is smarter than the OP. If he is, it does not show on this board. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/12 "2018-01-07T00:31:44Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Pit fail. **Hurricane Ditka** is smarter than the OP. Doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/13 "2018-01-11T12:56:52Z")
If there was any doubt if **HurricaneDitka** ’s support of Trump was related to possible sympathy for white supremacists and white supremacism: > [@Post your unpopular opinions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-unpopular-opinions/806001/165): > > I think Timothy McVeigh’s actions were not an entirely unreasonable reaction to Ruby Ridge and Waco. Not much doubt any more, ISTM. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/14 "2018-01-11T13:53:30Z")
He definitely posted that for the effect. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/15 "2018-01-11T14:28:55Z")
And what would that effect be? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/16 "2018-01-11T15:51:41Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If there was any doubt if **HurricaneDitka** ’s support of Trump was related to possible sympathy for white supremacists and white supremacism: > > Not much doubt any more, ISTM. I hope no one tries to get him to explain this. No good is going to come from that. Best to not feed. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/17 "2018-01-11T15:57:44Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If there was any doubt if **HurricaneDitka** ’s support of Trump was related to possible sympathy for white supremacists and white supremacism: > > Not much doubt any more, ISTM. You have a very strong tendency to to look at things through a racial lens. But you need to appreciate that not everyone else does. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/18 "2018-01-11T15:57:57Z")
> [@](#): > > I think Timothy McVeigh’s actions were not an entirely unreasonable reaction to Ruby Ridge and Waco. [Cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20716465&postcount=165) I’m speechless First, I don’t have much sympathy for the guys at Waco. Ruby Ridge was a disaster, but shit happens sometimes. Neither, under any circumstances or any view of the facts, justify OK City Federal Building bombing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/19 "2018-01-11T16:02:38Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You have a very strong tendency to to look at things through a racial lens. But you need to appreciate that not everyone else does. Most people that I’ve spoken to who have expressed a belief that black people (or Jews, or Mexicans, or some other ethnic/racial/etc. group) are inferior in some way (this is just an example – I’m not aware of **HD** saying anything like this directly) don’t actually believe they are racist, and are aghast if/when anyone says that anything they’ve said or done is racist. Sympathizing with/supporting a white supremacist mass murderer _is_ “looking at things through a racial lens”, whether one realizes it or not. It’s possible that **HD** is just trolling, and it’s probably even possible that his sympathy for the motives and actions of a white supremacist mass murderer like McVeigh is unrelated to white supremacism, but the latter strikes me as unlikely enough to put into that little basket of things that are not really worth considering without really strong evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/20 "2018-01-11T16:08:12Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You have a very strong tendency to to look at things through a racial lens. But you need to appreciate that not everyone else does. Did you just call Andy4eyes a racist? I seriously doubt that is anywhere near the case. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=2)