# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/581 "2018-10-10T14:40:11Z")
I wish that motherfucker would get scared and go away again. He’s a bigger baby than his own kid. I hope that sniveling brat ends up being the rebellious sort and grows up to be a flaming Democratic Socialist. Really, fuck that sanctimonious motherfucker. When he was gone I could actually enjoy the Great Debates forum. If you are reading this, HD, (and I’m onto you, I KNOW you’re reading this, motherfucker! ), just go away. And stay gone this time. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/582 "2018-10-12T07:19:26Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I just went and looked. Holy shit! 633 posts in one thread! :eek: How do we kill that which has no life? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/583 "2018-10-12T12:15:43Z")
+1 :golf clap: This ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/584 "2018-10-12T12:18:20Z")
We could refer the issue to the stake holders. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/585 "2018-10-17T15:38:11Z")
I just had an exchange with **HurricaneDitka** in GD which I think shows him at his very stupidest yet. I won’t argue that Trump “owes” Warren’s charity a million dollars. Lying is his trademark, and most of his oral utterances are too ungrammatical to form enforceable pledges anyway. What impressed me about the speech where Trump asked “Pocahontas” for a DNA test was the way he ranted nothing but childish insults for several minutes. Not one shred of humanity, not a single sentence of fact or non-despicable opinion; just childish insult after insult after insult. A Kindergarten teacher would have written “Little Donnie doesn’t play well with others.” As I wrote in GD, " all I can think is what a nasty despicable pandering hater this peculiar excuse for a human being is. I’m curious what you [Hurricane] think." His response: > [@Elizabeth Warren 2020. How do you feel about it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-2020-how-do-you-feel-about-it/821028/228): > > [I, septimus, have reddened portions so opposite from reality that it’s hard to imagine the person typing them was sane or sober] > > My thoughts? It sounded like **fairly typical** red meat for a party’s base that gets thrown out at a campaign rally. **Nothing in that video jumped out at me as particularly galling or offensive.** I didn’t see anything that distinguishes him in a meaningful way from the **average politician that infests DC** , certainly nothing that raises him to a particularly high (or is it low?) level of “nasty despicable pandering hater” with enough distinction to set him apart from the rest of the field. IOW, this is typical-politician-levels of “nasty despicable pandering” in my view. I answered with > [@Elizabeth Warren 2020. How do you feel about it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-2020-how-do-you-feel-about-it/821028/237): > > _ **Wow!** _ With a capital W. Trump’s performance in that video is so “beyond the pale” that it would be astounding in any other context. Calling the insults despicable is an understatement. In many contexts, a performance like this would have friends, relatives, or the relevant Board of Directors seeking an intervention or considering a court filing for a Declaration of Incompetence. > > Yet you claim to find this typical for “the average politician that infests DC.” My mind boggles. I won’t ask for evidence that this rant was “typical” — I’d like to see you come up with even one single rant by a leading Democratic politician that even hints, however remotely, at rising toward this level. > > _ **Wow!** _ **HurricaneDitka** was unable to come up with any evidence whatsoever that Trump’s performance was not “beyond the pale.” I prodded again: > [@Elizabeth Warren 2020. How do you feel about it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-2020-how-do-you-feel-about-it/821028/272): > > Wrong again. Reread your own #214. I’ll bet even Trumpists — the few that have some self-awareness — realize your claim is preposterous. This Trump rant wasn’t any sort of ordinary speech. > > I’ll admit there are a few whose prattle isn’t awfully dissimilar: Sarah Palin, Alex Jones, a few of the FoxNews assholes. (Is that why you think Trump’s speech is normal? Your reference point is rants on FoxNews and InfoWars?) > > Start with the constant repetition of the intended insult “Pocahontas.” You cannot name a single politician who prattles such a rude and silly insult over and over, can you? Even comedians like Stephen Colbert don’t do that, but you don’t want to pretend Colbert is “an average politician infesting DC.” Then you’d have to defend Trump’s top mentor, vomit-mouth Sean Hannity. > > And that’s just one word, “Pocahontas.” IIRC, every single sentence of Trump’s rant was stupid and rude. If finding a similar Youtube not by Trump is too impossible a mission, point to _any_ part of this Trump rant that was _not_ a moronic insult. This should be a challenge you can win! I didn’t have a transcript nor did I even finish this despicable shit-talk. > > Or retract your claim. Blame it on the mushrooms you ate, or the cat pounding on your keyboard. Or, are you tempted to emulate your own idol? He who just moves from one preposterous lie to another, never bothering to defend his claims, just doubling-down with ever more preposterous lies? > > Or — and this you’re quite likely to do, 2nd only to continuing your complete refusal to back-up your claim — _blame me._ I used an insulting word, or made a grammatical error in my challenge, so you’re off the hook. Makes great sense, hunh? Trump can rant and rave like Alex Jones, but it’s all OK because septimus misplaced a comma. Got it. All I got for this was a Mod note (and I thought “mushrooms” offered **Ditka** a way out! 🙂 ), and continued refusal to name any politician even remotely in the same league of blustering insults as Trump: > [@Elizabeth Warren 2020. How do you feel about it?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-2020-how-do-you-feel-about-it/821028/286): > > You asked me my opinion. Specifically, you said, “I’m curious what you think.” I told you what I thought. I made it clear that it was just my opinion by including phrases like “in my view”. There is no “claim” that I need to “defend” there, all you wild imaginations aside. > > … mistaking [43%](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html) for 38% was a bit more than a misplaced comma. So: Trump’s rant — which sane observers found astounding even by Trump’s standard — was “typical” for politicians. But Hurricane cannot name a single such typical politician, nor point to a single YouTube. The next time the “Nominations for Stupidest Doper” thread gets bumped, I know where my vote is going. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/586 "2018-10-17T15:53:48Z")
IMO he’s more dishonest and actively hateful than just stupid. Not that he’s particularly smart, by my reading of his posts, but I see a lot more dishonesty and hatefulness from his posts than simple stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/587 "2018-10-17T16:08:15Z")
Potato, potatoe… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/588 "2018-10-17T16:12:44Z")
Nazzi, Nahtzi… ---
**Author:** ![K2500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@K2500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K2500)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/589 "2018-10-18T14:29:30Z")
> [@Graduating Texas High School students required to complete traffic stop interaction class.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graduating-texas-high-school-students-required-to-complete-traffic-stop-interaction-class/823125/5): > > Does the class tell you what to do when you are [raped by the officer pulling you over?](https://nypost.com/2018/10/16/maryland-police-officer-ryan-macklin-charged-with-raping-woman-during-traffic-stop/) > [@Graduating Texas High School students required to complete traffic stop interaction class.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graduating-texas-high-school-students-required-to-complete-traffic-stop-interaction-class/823125/7): > > “How to file a complaint against or a compliment on behalf of a peace officer.” > > So … I guess it depends on how you felt about the interaction the next morning. I’ll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/590 "2018-10-18T15:00:17Z")
> [@K2500](#): > > I’ll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here. No surprise to see such misogyny from a gleeful Trump supporter. Remember this the next time he pretends that he actually cares about fighting sexual assault and rape. ---
**Author:** ![K2500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@K2500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K2500)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/591 "2018-10-18T15:33:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No surprise to see such misogyny from a gleeful Trump supporter. Remember this the next time he pretends that he actually cares about fighting sexual assault and rape. Apparently he does not recommend fighting it at all. > [@Graduating Texas High School students required to complete traffic stop interaction class.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graduating-texas-high-school-students-required-to-complete-traffic-stop-interaction-class/823125/13): > > I guess you could try to fight them, but I wouldn’t recommend it. It seems like a good way to get murdered. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/592 "2018-10-18T16:41:44Z")
> [@K2500](#): > > I’ll just leave this exchange from mpsims right here. I regret ever giving him the benefit of a doubt. What a nasty sack of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/593 "2018-10-18T16:54:26Z")
Way to paint [a target](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21242920#post21242920) on yourself! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/594 "2018-10-19T23:50:49Z")
And he got a warning: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21276850&postcount=24](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21276850&postcount=24) ---
**Author:** ![K2500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@K2500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K2500)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/595 "2018-10-20T00:30:24Z")
Hip-hip! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/596 "2018-10-20T03:57:39Z")
I’m glad he did. I’m not sure which is worse, the idea that rape depends on how the victim feels the next day, or the idea that the victim may want to compliment her rapist the next day. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/597 "2018-10-22T12:38:38Z")
I haven’t been around here since the beginning, so I can’t judge the stupidest fucking thread ever. But I’ll bet you this one by HD would be in the running. It’s painful to do, but you’ll really want to read the whole thing. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864198](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864198) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/598 "2018-10-22T12:44:58Z")
That might be a quality nominee for the 2018-season **Oh, no, you Pitn’t!** awards, dedicated to threads which did not go as well as the OP hoped. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/599 "2018-10-22T12:51:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I haven’t been around here since the beginning, so I can’t judge the stupidest fucking thread ever. But I’ll bet you this one by HD would be in the running. It’s painful to do, but you’ll really want to read the whole thing. > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864198](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864198) Here’s a good summary: HD: Trump says Republicans Create Jobs, Democrats Create Mobs! I think that’s accurate. Other folks: But Democrats create plenty of jobs, and Republicans have created plenty of mobs, so why do you think Trump was accurate? HD: Cite that Trump said Democrats don’t create jobs, or that Republicans don’t create mobs? He’s not comparing them, he’s just making two completely unrelated points in a rhyming slogan, and those unrelated points are clearly accurate. Other folks: You’ve got to be shitting me. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/600 "2018-10-22T12:51:25Z")
While I normally advocate for ignoring this particular troll, Dopers have done a good job of cornering **HD** in the thread linked in #597. Pretty blatant that’s he’s just trolling for reactions, and he’s been correctly called out for it (while still remaining within the rules of Elections). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=31)