# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/681 "2019-01-02T22:02:58Z")

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Mod note from Bone: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21408396#post21408396](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21408396#post21408396)

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/682 "2019-01-07T14:14:06Z")

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Ooops. I’m late to the latest party. [I posted my own comments on its latest blatent lie here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868499)  
Color me puzzled. If it had a 95+ IQ it would know it was going to get caught, right? Did it just get confused and think the paragraph about a deficit increase was really about deficit decrease?

Does anyone know what state it lives in?

> [@https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#United\_States](#):
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> In several U.S. states, “idiots” do not have the right to vote:
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> Kentucky Section 145[18]  
> Mississippi Article 12, Section 241[19]  
> New Mexico Article VII, section 1[20]  
> Ohio Article V, Section 6[21]

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/683 "2019-01-07T14:20:22Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> …Does anyone know what state it lives in?

Denial.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/684 "2019-01-07T17:34:09Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Does anyone know what state it lives in?

I think that I recall him talking about voting for Mia Love of Utah in the last election. So that’s my guess.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/685 "2019-01-08T23:34:46Z")

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In response to this:

> [@If Democrats decide to stop being "the adult in the room"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-democrats-decide-to-stop-being-the-adult-in-the-room/827324/72):
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> The Democrats never elevated to national office someone who spread racist evidence-free conspiracy theories for years. There is no Democratic equivalent of Trump. Not even close.

liar HD’s response is:

> [@If Democrats decide to stop being "the adult in the room"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-democrats-decide-to-stop-being-the-adult-in-the-room/827324/73):
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> What are you defining as “national office”?

So basically, he accepts that Trump spread racist evidence-free conspiracy theories for years, and his response is (or would be if I engaged him, which I won’t) ‘but Democrats do it too!’. Which they don’t, quite obviously.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/686 "2019-01-09T00:13:05Z")

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Running Coach shuts him down when asked for a cite. The following should be classified as grievous assault with a cite:

> [@The five billion dollar wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/144):
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> Where are you guys getting “2000 miles” from? President Trump is asking for $5B. I think we’d all agree that’s not going to build “2000 miles” of wall, right?

> [@The five billion dollar wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/145):
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> From the Howling Yam himself.

> [@The five billion dollar wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/148):
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> Cite?

> [@The five billion dollar wall](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/149):
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> [GOP platform.](https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/static/home/data/platform.pdf) (PDF)  
> pg 33
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> Along with numerous rantings at rallies.

The GOP platform cite included:  
"That is why we support building a wall along  
our southern border and protecting all ports of  
entry. The border wall must cover the entirety  
of the southern border and must be sufficient to  
stop both vehicular and pedestrian traffic. "

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/687 "2019-01-09T00:40:08Z")

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Violence on these boards is unacceptable and I hope Running Coach at least got mod-noted for such a brutal slapdown. 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/688 "2019-01-09T03:55:03Z")

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Shelter won’t let him have kittens any more.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/689 "2019-01-11T18:35:30Z")

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[Butthurt liar goes running to the mods after people are mean to butthurt liar.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21425232&postcount=270)

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/690 "2019-01-11T20:29:02Z")

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On the one hand, the Report Post button is there for a reason, and I don’t really mind its being used when anyone, for any reason, feels the rules have been violated.

On the other hand, if jerks can leverage the system to continue being jerks perhaps it’s the system that’s at issue.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/691 "2019-01-11T20:33:27Z")

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(On the gripping hand, **Bone** might feel, as some other do, that **HD** is a ginormous target and is being unfairly targeted. I’m willing to entertain that notion; when I don’t like someone I’m inclined to see everything that person says or does in a worse light. That’s a pretty common human failing.)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/692 "2019-01-12T02:41:38Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> (On the gripping hand, **Bone** might feel, as some other do, that **HD** is a ginormous target and is being unfairly targeted. I’m willing to entertain that notion; when I don’t like someone I’m inclined to see everything that person says or does in a worse light. That’s a pretty common human failing.)

Let’s consider why he’s an enormous target. Because he won’t stop lying and being a disingenuous prick, that’s why.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/693 "2019-01-12T03:02:34Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Let’s consider why he’s an enormous target. Because he won’t stop lying and being a disingenuous prick, that’s why.

Oh, not denying. But it means I see him as a disingenuous lying prick even when he posts something that not disingenuous, lying, or prickish.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/694 "2019-01-12T03:19:22Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Oh, not denying. But it means I see him as a disingenuous lying prick even when he posts something that not disingenuous, lying, or prickish.

Hmmm. I hadn’t considered that might happen.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/695 "2019-01-13T01:30:06Z")

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And the lying piece of shit gets a warning for insults:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21426715#post21426715](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21426715#post21426715)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/696 "2019-01-13T02:03:53Z")

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If only he wasn’t too scared to come here, to the Pit. He could insult away. I remember finding him here once, and I had just enough time to call him an asshole before he hurried off.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/697 "2019-01-13T02:10:16Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> On the other hand, if jerks can leverage the system to continue being jerks perhaps it’s the system that’s at issue.

This is why I took a 6 month break. When obvious lying trolls are allowed to continue their lying troll ways, and people who call them on it are the ones being warned…

It’s time to move on.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/698 "2019-01-13T04:54:59Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Oh, not denying. But it means I see him as a disingenuous lying prick even when he posts something that not disingenuous, lying, or prickish.

Cite for a time he wasn’t being any of the above.

Serious ask.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/699 "2019-01-13T14:47:52Z")

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Yeah, i got nothing. I’m assuming it’s happened? 'Cos I’m Pollyanna?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/700 "2019-01-13T15:13:56Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Cite for a time he wasn’t being any of the above.
> 
> Serious ask.

In my thread:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863156](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=863156)

Some of his early responses seemed on the level to me. For example:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21240327&postcount=11](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21240327&postcount=11)  
[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21240507&postcount=25](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21240507&postcount=25)

There’s more stuff that’s not too bad, and then the thread went off the rails. However, I’ve tried to engage with him since then and I’ve been really let down. His thread about Democrats/mobs-Republican/jobs was basically the last straw for me and I won’t engage with him anymore.

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