# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/761 "2019-03-19T15:52:42Z")
I’m bookmarking that as Exhibit A for next time **UltraVires** or **octopus** whines about bias in moderation. I don’t know how a blatant troll post joking about a mass murder a few days after it happens doesn’t deserve a warning. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/762 "2019-03-19T17:00:29Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’m bookmarking that as Exhibit A for next time **UltraVires** or **octopus** whines about bias in moderation. I don’t know how a blatant troll post joking about a mass murder a few days after it happens doesn’t deserve a warning. The victims weren’t Americans. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/763 "2019-03-19T18:38:29Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The victims weren’t Americans. And mostly not white. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/764 "2019-03-19T18:47:53Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > And mostly not white. And not Christians. We’re lucky HD got any kind of mod response to his obvious hateful trolling. The Dope is making real progress. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/765 "2019-04-01T20:22:16Z")
So, you are such a pantywaist that you will probably click away from this once you realize what forum this is, but your cowardice is not my problem… your dishonesty is. And you asked for the citation, so here it is, Dipshit: First, Bijou Drains posts this in the Howard Schultz thread: > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/238): > > Nate Silver says a guy like Schultz could divide the pro Trump vote instead of hurting a Democrat > > good explanation here: > > [Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative Voters Preferred Trump In 2016 | FiveThirtyEight](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/socially-liberal-fiscally-conservative-voters-preferred-trump-in-2016/) Then, talking to Shodan, Thing Fish posts this: > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/242): > > Check the 538 article linked above. Certain People are always calling for a “socially liberal, fiscally conservative centrist independent” to break the two-party duopoly. Problem is that only like 15% of Americans are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Then you, dipshit, posts this query, thinking GOTCHA YALL! > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/243): > > Which candidate do you think those 15% supported in the last (Presidential) election? Let me quote the headline: > [@Inscrutible title of mysterious 538 article](#): > > Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative Voters Preferred Trump In 2016 Let me quote the URL fragment, in case clicking was too hard… [Quote] https… socially-liberal-fiscally-conservative-voters-preferred-trump-in-2016/ [quote] So, reasonably, I asked: > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/244): > > Trump. It says so in the article. Did you not read it? I mean, the headline itself says: > > > [@](#): > > > > Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative VotersPreferred Trump In 2016 You ducked the issue, preferring to whine about CNN, Vox, Evil Economist catching you in more bullshit, then, three days later you were able to squinch up enough courage to have the following interaction: > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/304): > > Still want to know if you even bothered to click the link, Ditka. > [@Howard Schultz considers run; urged against.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-schultz-considers-run-urged-against/828511/305): > > Not until today. You see, Ditka, this is why you’re the least respectable of this Boards conservatives. You’re a coward. You’re a liar. At least Shodan, SA, et al have the courage of their convictions. You? **You can’t summon the courage to read a cite.** How dare you call yourself a _man_. Let’s put it this way: in other threads, you like to talk big about how the “red side” can take out the “blue side” in a Civil War. Debatable. But one thing is not debatable: you, ese, are not man enough to be one of the ones firing guns. We have nothing to fear from the likes of _you_, who will spend this supposed civil war hiding behind the skirts of women, tending to the children, and lying on the Internet. Fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/766 "2019-04-06T15:42:27Z")
[Isn’t it precious?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873250) Ditka makes a thread just for his favorite moderator. Of course the odds that a single issue gun voter didn’t catch that bit about magazines in CA is zero. Now the mass murderers in California can dispatch their victims with ruthless efficiency. How nice. How fucking nice. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/767 "2019-04-07T21:00:03Z")
And of course HD tried and failed to defend the idiot Mike Lee that said that having more babies would cure climate change. I’m not to concerned that HD is a moron. He has a big tribe of morons just like him. THAT does concern me. I am a bit more concerned that legislators such as Mike Lee are CLEARLY morons. Like Mike Lee, HD runs away from facts when they are inconvenient. Bummer HD. You are welcome to your own opinion, but you cannot avoid facts. Facts always get through. Ignore them if you wish, but a fact will catch you sooner of later. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/768 "2019-04-07T22:30:38Z")
The problem isn’t that he runs away from inconvenient facts, it’s that he keeps coming back. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/769 "2019-04-07T23:31:43Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > The problem isn’t that he runs away from inconvenient facts, it’s that he keeps coming back. [Take it away, Edie Brickell](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ogf92f7ak). (Edit: after about 45 seconds it’s less relevant 🙂 ). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/770 "2019-04-08T14:33:15Z")
Noticed this post: > [@Could Russia invade Canada? (based on YouTube video)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-russia-invade-canada-based-on-youtube-video/832104/9): > > XT, just as something to consider, my general impression of the SDMB is that there’s not a lot of knowledge of or interest in military topics among most of the members. Just made me laugh. Like many rhetorically bloodthirsty, flag-waving blowhards, HD shows every sign that in real life he’s a gutless coward – despite being the right age, he didn’t volunteer for the military even after 9/11 (which I don’t think was or should be a moral requirement for Americans after 9/11 – but it’s still in amusing conflict with his type of bloodthirsty, flag-waving rhetoric), or for the border patrol if he’s worried about immigration, or the police if he’s worried about crime… in short, he just (by his posts, anyway) wants to fondle his guns in his basement, fantasize about killing liberals, and never actually be in any personal physical danger whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/771 "2019-04-08T14:42:54Z")
Yup. Whenever his fantasized-about Civil War happens, no one will not have anything to fear from him, personally. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/772 "2019-04-08T16:00:14Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Noticed this post: > > Just made me laugh. Like many rhetorically bloodthirsty, flag-waving blowhards, HD shows every sign that in real life he’s a gutless coward – despite being the right age, he didn’t volunteer for the military even after 9/11 (which I don’t think was or should be a moral requirement for Americans after 9/11 – but it’s still in amusing conflict with his type of bloodthirsty, flag-waving rhetoric), or for the border patrol if he’s worried about immigration, or the police if he’s worried about crime… in short, he just (by his posts, anyway) wants to fondle his guns in his basement, fantasize about killing liberals, and never actually be in any personal physical danger whatsoever. That quote by him is pretty hilarious, considering how many vets we actually have – quite a few, and I think you’re one of them. On top of that, we have people like **Stranger on a Train** and others who could give whole lectures on current and previous military equipment. We’ve had multi-page discussions on what an aircraft carrier group can do, and many, many intelligent discussions on this modern army vs. that old military. Maybe he just can’t believe that a vet could be a Democrat or have left-leaning politics, so he assumes we don’t know anything about it. (When I say “we”, I mean this board – I’ve never been in the military or studied the hardware or warfare in general) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/773 "2019-04-08T16:08:28Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > That quote by him is pretty hilarious, considering how many vets we actually have – quite a few, and I think you’re one of them. Yes, I am, thanks! > [@](#): > > On top of that, we have people like **Stranger on a Train** and others who could give whole lectures on current and previous military equipment. We’ve had multi-page discussions on what an aircraft carrier group can do, and many, many intelligent discussions on this modern army vs. that old military. Exactly. Perhaps he’s as deluded about this board as he appears to be on so many other topics. > [@](#): > > Maybe he just can’t believe that a vet could be a Democrat or have left-leaning politics, so he assumes we don’t know anything about it. (When I say “we”, I mean this board – I’ve never been in the military or studied the hardware or warfare in general) This has been a particular bee in my bonnet for many years. And he’s hardly alone among conservatives if he has these feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/774 "2019-04-08T16:38:14Z")
That’s because the only right I enlisted to protect was the 2nd Amendment. Not all those other rights that only liberal snowflakes care about. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/775 "2019-04-10T03:57:34Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > That quote by him is pretty hilarious, considering how many vets we actually have – quite a few, and I think you’re one of them. On top of that, we have people like **Stranger on a Train** and others who could give whole lectures on current and previous military equipment. We’ve had multi-page discussions on what an aircraft carrier group can do, and many, many intelligent discussions on this modern army vs. that old military. > > Maybe he just can’t believe that a vet could be a Democrat or have left-leaning politics, so he assumes we don’t know anything about it. (When I say “we”, I mean this board – I’ve never been in the military or studied the hardware or warfare in general) On top of that, we have an Arctic paratrooper on this board who’s conducted operations north of the Arctic Circle and has in depth knowledge on Russia’s current activity and capabilities in the Arctic. “Not a lot of knowledge” he says. What an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/776 "2019-04-10T04:38:02Z")
> [@bear\_nenno](#): > > on top of that, we have an arctic paratrooper on this board who’s conducted operations north of the arctic circle and has in depth knowledge on russia’s current activity and capabilities in the arctic. “not a lot of knowledge” he says. What an asshole. +52,000 ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/777 "2019-04-10T04:45:45Z")
> [@Terry Pratchett](#): > > Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia. And stupidity, too. They’ve all sworn the oath, he thought, but not a man jack of ’em has even asked what a figgin is. > ― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards! I’ve just started rereading this, and this quote jumped out at me. Sums up, to a T, HurricaneDikta, and most of his reactionary right cohorts. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/778 "2019-04-10T05:35:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This has been a particular bee in my bonnet for many years. And he’s hardly alone among conservatives if he has these feelings. The right loves to propagate the myth that the military is overwhelmingly Republican. [But the simple fact is that Donald Trump has NEVER enjoyed even 50% support from the military.](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/10/15/support-for-trump-is-fading-among-active-duty-troops-new-poll-shows/) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/779 "2019-04-10T06:33:21Z")
Creating a Space Force hasn’t endeared him to the military? What about stripping budgets to build The Wall - no? Huh. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/780 "2019-04-10T07:29:49Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > The right loves to propagate the myth that the military is overwhelmingly Republican. > > [But the simple fact is that Donald Trump has NEVER enjoyed even 50% support from the military.](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/10/15/support-for-trump-is-fading-among-active-duty-troops-new-poll-shows/) I’ve mentioned on this board before my personal observation of which groups in the military seem to be to be Democratic and which groups seem to be overwhelmingly Republican supporters. Oddly enough, the larger group is the “rank and file” and, contrary to what I expected, they (in my experience) are Republican, often very far into Republican. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=40)