# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/781 "2019-04-10T08:01:45Z")

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> [@How difficult would it be for a Democratic POTUS to replace Trump's executive branch employees?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-would-it-be-for-a-democratic-potus-to-replace-trumps-executive-branch-employees/832293/14):
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> it’s about teaching the Dems that their actions have consequences. You can’t vote in virtual lockstep against Republican nominees and not expect them to respond in kind.

> [@How difficult would it be for a Democratic POTUS to replace Trump's executive branch employees?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-would-it-be-for-a-democratic-potus-to-replace-trumps-executive-branch-employees/832293/16):
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> What you seem to be proposing is that you guys get to vote in virtual lockstep against Republican nominees but that we shouldn’t do the same to you. Seems dumb. Real dumb.

There is no way in hell that this trolling cunt is doing anything but being a trolling cunt, all primed and ready to shit over another thread.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/782 "2019-04-10T14:00:27Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> > [@Terry Pratchett](#):
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> > Let the other societies take the skilled, the hopefuls, the ambitious, the self-confident. He’d take the whining resentful ones, the ones with a bellyful of spite and bile, the ones who knew they could make it big if only they’d been given the chance. Give him the ones in which the floods of venom and vindictiveness were dammed up behind thin walls of ineptitude and lowgrade paranoia. And stupidity, too. They’ve all sworn the oath, he thought, but not a man jack of ’em has even asked what a figgin is.  
> > ― Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
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> I’ve just started rereading this, and this quote jumped out at me. Sums up, to a T, HurricaneDikta, and most of his reactionary right cohorts.

What’s a figgin?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/783 "2019-04-10T14:19:37Z")

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A small short-crust pasty containing raisins.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/784 "2019-04-10T14:19:50Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> What’s a figgin?

A Newton.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/785 "2019-04-10T15:30:12Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> There is no way in hell that this trolling cunt is doing anything but being a trolling cunt, all primed and ready to shit over another thread.

I at least do him the courtesy of taking him seriously when he does things like defend that Mike Lee fellow’s unique approach to global warming or expresses support for the US torturing its prisoners and murdering their families.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/786 "2019-04-10T15:36:42Z")

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Per the SDMB PTB, trolling here does not necessarily require insincerity.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/787 "2019-04-10T17:32:54Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> There is no way in hell that this trolling cunt is doing anything but being a trolling cunt, all primed and ready to shit over another thread.

That’s the threadshitting I came here to mention. LightBreezeDitka bringing lukewarm brown rain. I’d be surprised if he isn’t trolling, but I also think he’s too dumb to not belive most of what he posts.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/788 "2019-04-10T18:16:21Z")

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He is the poster boy of Republican obstructionism and has demonstrated what the GOP will consider its reason for existence as its electoral clout wanes in the decades to come – use every obstructive piece of the constitution to obstruct changing it and improving the major undemocratic parts of it. If 75% of the electorate is prevented from enjoying better democracy because of his and their efforts, well, sucks to be us, I guess.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/789 "2019-04-10T18:49:54Z")

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[Special thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873852) on this subject. Yeah, I’m feeding the troll, I just felt like it needed to be on the record.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/790 "2019-04-15T21:52:31Z")

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The cognitive dissonance required to ask people to compare BHO and DJT’s _Twitter_ accounts in a defense of _Trump_ just boggles the imagination. Am I really seeing this? 😃  
[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21592415#post21592415](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21592415#post21592415)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/791 "2019-04-20T15:19:26Z")

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**Ditka** is such an immoral shitbag that he’s incapable of even conceiving of the possibility that someone [might legitimately and honestly oppose sexual assault and violations of the consent of women in political candidates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597592#post21597592). What kind of awful person can’t even accept that some people actually honestly care about this stuff?

And he can’t help but get the last word in (quoting his own bullshit about me) in an ATMB thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597795#post21597795](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597795#post21597795)

God what a worthless piece of shit. It’s funny, 'cause I served in the Navy with a lot of Mormons, and the vast majority were truly decent and courageous people. **Ditka** just doesn’t cut it as a person of character, at least according to his posts. I mourn for the future of his daughter – she’s gonna have a tough go of it with such a misogynistic, cowardly, dishonest piece of shit (based on his posts!) as a father.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/792 "2019-04-20T15:43:38Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **Ditka** is such an immoral shitbag that he’s incapable of even conceiving of the possibility that someone [might legitimately and honestly oppose sexual assault and violations of the consent of women in political candidates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597592#post21597592). What kind of awful person can’t even accept that some people actually honestly care about this stuff?
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> And he can’t help but get the last word in (quoting his own bullshit about me) in an ATMB thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597795#post21597795](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21597795#post21597795)
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> God what a worthless piece of shit. It’s funny, 'cause I served in the Navy with a lot of Mormons, and the vast majority were truly decent and courageous people. **Ditka** just doesn’t cut it as a person of character, at least according to his posts. I mourn for the future of his daughter – she’s gonna have a tough go of it with such a misogynistic, cowardly, dishonest piece of shit (based on his posts!) as a father.

Well, he voted for a guy that professes a desire to fuck his own child, so I now have to seriously and with great concern cast doubt on HD’s parenting skills. Or call him a hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/793 "2019-04-20T17:29:32Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Well, he voted for a guy that professes a desire to fuck his own child, so I now have to seriously and with great concern cast doubt on HD’s parenting skills. Or call him a hypocrite.

His wrist is the size of a cantaloupe from all the hand-waving he does.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/794 "2019-04-20T18:42:03Z")

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So is his head.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/795 "2019-04-20T19:26:50Z")

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He never fucking finishes his conversations. I don’t know why I decided to engage with him again, but:

1. In the Kamala Harris doesn’t understand statistics thread, that trolling asshole and I had a little back and forth. I put together a couple of detailed posts and asked him questions directly and nothing. He just walked away.
2. In the Mueller Report thread in Elections, I stated that there’s no way that the Trump campaign didn’t collude according to the definition that the trolling asshole provided, based on a few posts in that thread. He asked, do you mean these posts? I responded with, yes, those and subsequent. I asked, do you agree there’s no way there was no collusion…, etc.? Crickets.

I really wanted to see him admit that there was collusion, according to his own definition. Pipe dream I guess. I’m really done with him and with that idiot WV lawyer as well.

I’ve been successful in staying away from **Farnaby** , and I never bother talking to **D’Anconia**.

There have to be better, smarter conservatives out there! Actually, no, that’s not true. We have people here who are better and smarter, and used to be conservatives, but the movement left them. I’m thinking of posters like **SenorBeef** and **Little Nemo** , who both struck me as conservative years ago, but not anymore. I don’t think there are any left.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/796 "2019-04-22T10:44:45Z")

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In the Mueller thread Ditka (hilariously) tried to accuse the entire Democratic party and all its supporters of tolerating abuse for supporting Joe Biden (even though he only has support from a minority of Democrats). Now he blame the whole party for _not_ supporting Joe Biden:

> [@Trump will be re-elected -- "Americans are a stupid people. We believe whatever we're told."](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-be-re-elected-americans-are-a-stupid-people-we-believe-whatever-were-told/832844/25):
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> To be fair, [neither do the Dems](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/joe-biden-mike-pence-decent-guy-criticize-respond/index.html).

What a dishonest, hypocritical asshole. Anything so he can pretend Trump supporters aren’t alone in tolerating abuse and celebrating an abuser.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/797 "2019-04-22T12:35:17Z")

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If a thread is negative for Trump his goal seems to be to keep engaging with hijacks until the entire thread is pretty much the HurricaneDitka show and all anyone is doing is responding to the troll. I have noticed that some of the more persistent and patient dopers are able to get him to go away by hammering him on his lies and bad logic over and over until he just stops responding, but by then the thread is often dead, which is what he wants.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/798 "2019-04-25T15:30:43Z")

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I’ve made a genuine offer for **HD** to join me in a discussion of his legal principles, or lack thereof:

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/20):
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> I’ll note that your opinion of the law tends to vary based on what’s good for your political opinions. That’s less than quaint, that’s an unprincipled view of the rule of law.

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/26):
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> I feel the same way about your opinion of the law.

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/29):
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> Except that this opinion is based on nothing more than the laughable “everyone does it!” nonsense embraced by partisans. Look back through my posting history and you’ll see tons of times where I have found that the law does not support what is good for my politics. I believe in the threads about Bears Ears and tax cuts you stated something to the effect that you support whatever policies are good for you personally, and don’t really care about the process. I can state unequivocally that I reject your “ends justify the means” approach to the law.

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/31):
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> Now you’ve tried a very lame bait and switch. I generally support _policies_ that are good for me personally, but that tells us nothing about my view of “the law”. There was no serious legal / constitutional issue with shrinking Bears Ears or cutting my taxes. Do you have any actual examples where my “opinion of the law tends to vary based on what’s good for [my] political opinions”?

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/32):
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> Sure, but since this is about you personally I’ll post them in the Pit thread and we can have a discussion of it over there. Sound good?

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/34):
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> You can post whatever you like over there. I prefer to have discussions in places where people are expected to behave somewhat less like juveniles, so I won’t be joining you there.

> [@Supreme Court looks likely to approve Census citizenship question by 5-4 vote](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-looks-likely-to-approve-census-citizenship-question-by-5-4-vote/833025/35):
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> I’m happy to keep it civil, but since the topic is you personally, in my opinion hijacking this thread is inappropriate, and I don’t see that any other forum is really in the sweet spot of discussions of your principles and politics. If you don’t like the way the discussion unfolds, you can always just stop showing up.

Let’s see what happens.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/799 "2019-04-25T15:44:39Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I’ve made a genuine offer for **HD** to join me in a discussion of his legal principles, or lack thereof:

If you’re expecting that asshole to finish a conversation or answer direct questions, well, good luck with that. I tried again to understand why he thinks there was no “collusion” under his own definition – he said it will take some time, so may not get to it until “tonight”. That was days ago.

Let’s see what happens.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/800 "2019-04-25T15:46:14Z")

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