# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/821 "2019-04-30T08:41:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > This does not work unless everyone is on board, _which can never happen unless everyone that posts in that thread reads your instructions **and** follows those instructions._ > Which CAN’T happen, so please quit putting this forward as any sort of solution. Sure, but since the mods won’t moderate an obvious troll, we can help by not engaging with him. Yes, we can’t control everybody, but if enough of us refuse to engage with him he’ll get bored and move away. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/822 "2019-04-30T10:43:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > This does not work unless everyone is on board, _which can never happen unless everyone that posts in that thread reads your instructions **and** follows those instructions._ > Which CAN’T happen, so please quit putting this forward as any sort of solution. No, I shan’t. Besides, they’re not _my_ instructions, they’re a duh-obvious way to handle someone who seems determined to annoy you and if reminders are needed, so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/823 "2019-04-30T12:43:25Z")
His Kamala Harris gun thread is, as someone there noted, in the longstanding tradition of **Bricker** ’s “look at the liberal hypocrisy!” threads. And like most of those it has immediately been shown to be one of those “Liberals are doing things at odds with my Liberal Strawman and therefore are hypocrites” arguments. And then it became the **DrDeth** show. **HD** also dropped a steaming turd into the Buttigieg thread, despite the story (about Wohl and Burkman’s latest farce) being as fake as a cardboard dildo. There was a point at which he could actually make a valid point about things but years of having to defend the indefensible have driven him into full-on troll territory. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/824 "2019-04-30T15:13:53Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Sure, but since the mods won’t moderate an obvious troll, we can help by not engaging with him. Yes, we can’t control everybody, but if enough of us refuse to engage with him he’ll get bored and move away. I love this plan. I’m excited to be a part of it. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/825 "2019-04-30T16:28:42Z")
But then we won’t get the enjoyment of watching everyone come into this thread and complain about him! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/826 "2019-04-30T17:25:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > **HD** also dropped a steaming turd into the Buttigieg thread, despite the story (about Wohl and Burkman’s latest farce) being as fake as a cardboard dildo. > > There was a point at which he could actually make a valid point about things but years of having to defend the indefensible have driven him into full-on troll territory. Yes, obviously that was posted in bad faith. I mean Acey believed it but Acey is very dumb. (And the sad thing is, in a room of average Trump supporters Acey would look like Aristotle. But I digress.) HD is much smarter than Acey. (So are a couple of cats I know.) There is no way he believed that story. He only posted that piece of obvious bullshit to troll the libs/help the far right spread a viral rumor. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/827 "2019-05-08T06:39:05Z")
And it’s the **HurricaneDitka** Show, And it goes on and on you know, Regardless what the topic is, You can bet it’ll soon be 'bout him! It’s pretty textbook, really. Check out [the posts he’s made](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=15848995). He’s got more posts than anyone else in this thread. He came in and started needling - not talking about the topic, just throwing out rather inane nonsense on the side - until someone took the bait. I’m sorry that was me, and I pledge to try to do better in the future. At no point does he even attempt to address the topic of the thread. He just trolls and tries to drive it off topic. I was up in the air between posting this here and in ATMB but at this point it’s clear the mods do not give a flying fuck and will allow this behavior to continue regardless, and the best I can do is just whip myself until there’s a pavlovian fear and disgust response towards taking the bait. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/828 "2019-05-08T08:25:54Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > And it’s the **HurricaneDitka** Show, > And it goes on and on you know, > Regardless what the topic is, > You can bet it’ll soon be 'bout him! > > It’s pretty textbook, really. Check out [the posts he’s made](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=15848995). Got another link, 'cos that one appears to have been cornfielded. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/829 "2019-05-08T08:28:25Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Got another link, 'cos that one appears to have been cornfielded. It’s just search results from his posts in this thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875128](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875128) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/830 "2019-05-08T13:43:21Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > And it’s the **HurricaneDitka** Show, > And it goes on and on you know, > Regardless what the topic is, > You can bet it’ll soon be 'bout him! > > It’s pretty textbook, really. Check out [the posts he’s made](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=15848995). He’s got more posts than anyone else in this thread. He came in and started needling - not talking about the topic, just throwing out rather inane nonsense on the side - until someone took the bait. I’m sorry that was me, and I pledge to try to do better in the future. At no point does he even attempt to address the topic of the thread. He just trolls and tries to drive it off topic. > > I was up in the air between posting this here and in ATMB but at this point it’s clear the mods do not give a flying fuck and will allow this behavior to continue regardless, and the best I can do is just whip myself until there’s a pavlovian fear and disgust response towards taking the bait. What? HurricaneDitka was on-topic for posts [POST=21628226]#11[/POST] and [POST=21630007]#17[/POST]. All six of the less salient posts are threaded underneath **The Other Waldo Pepper** ’s [POST=21628128]post #13[/POST], which I also read as a joke. ETA: Oops, didn’t realize I had stepped into the BBQ Pit… ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/831 "2019-05-08T15:31:23Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > What? HurricaneDitka was on-topic for posts [POST=21628226]#11[/POST] and [POST=21630007]#17[/POST]. All six of the less salient posts are threaded underneath **The Other Waldo Pepper** ’s [POST=21628128]post #13[/POST], which I also read as a joke. > > ETA: Oops, didn’t realize I had stepped into the BBQ Pit… > > ~Max Not really. At no point does he actually address the topic. Post 17 does nothing to answer the OP - it’s a bad clarification to other posts that, in and of themselves, do little to nothing to address the topic. Post 11 was by Velocity. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/832 "2019-05-08T16:39:55Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Not really. At no point does he actually address the topic. Post 17 does nothing to answer the OP - it’s a bad clarification to other posts that, in and of themselves, do little to nothing to address the topic. Post 11 was by Velocity. Sorry, I didn’t realize threaded mode changed the numbering of posts. I should have typed [POST=21628226]#18[/POST] and [POST=21630007]#57[/POST], and the Ivanka post was [POST=21628128]#14[/POST], but the links still work. And while **HurricaneDitka** did not answer the OP, he did offer his opinions on other poster’s answers. In my book that’s OK, even if the actual substance is a one-liner, because I consider relevant comments about an on-topic post to be on-topic. This is the sole post that didn’t stand up to snuff: > [@What will the Republican Party be like post-Trump?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-the-republican-party-be-like-post-trump/833574/38): > > > [@What will the Republican Party be like post-Trump?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-the-republican-party-be-like-post-trump/833574/36): > > > > 1. I’m more confident predicting that the post-Trump GOP will confidently eschew any pretense of conforming to America’s norms around free and fair elections. My confidence stems from the GOP’s behavior pre- and during-Trump. Whatever they want to do (per point 1, I can’t predict that), they’ll be pretty brazen about cheating to do it. > > This particular high horse looks silly when there’s currently an active thread in Elections titled “[Blue states propose measures to keep Trump off of 2020 ballots (unless he releases tax returns)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875037)” In my eyes this is an invalid criticism of **snoe** ’s argument. **snoe** replied so much, and could have ended at that but instead adopted the straw man for the sake of argument. You also decided to address the straw man instead of pointing out that it was a straw man and leaving it at that. If **HurricaneDitka** has a pattern of derailing threads with invalid arguments that might be a problem, but I’m new and won’t make such a judgement at this time. But I still think some of his other comments in that thread were fine. I could not say that his motivation for participating in that thread is to hijack the thread. The question itself did not invite factual answers because it is essentially asking for predictions of Republican behavior in the future. Again, I’m new here and probably don’t understand board etiquette. Respectfully I will bow out of the BBQ pit, hopefully never to return. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/833 "2019-05-08T16:52:16Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > And while **HurricaneDitka** did not answer the OP, he did offer his opinions on other poster’s answers. In my book that’s OK, even if the actual substance is a one-liner, because I consider relevant comments about an on-topic post to be on-topic. What I see here is pseudo-irrelevent needling. Throwing out little things as bait in the hopes that someone engages him in a subdiscussion that’s basically completely disconnected from the main topic. Which then happens - I (SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME ON ME!) take the bait, and from there the thread turns into people bickering over the (stupid) subdiscussion. Maybe it’s not quite as obvious in threaded mode. This is such trolling 101 bullshit that it’s frustrating both that I fell for it and that the moderators keep tolerating it. > [@](#): > > If **HurricaneDitka** has a pattern of derailing threads with invalid arguments that might be a problem, but I’m new and won’t make such a judgement at this time. Lemme give you a hint: > [@Me](#): > > And it’s the HurricaneDitka Show, > And it goes on and on you know, > Regardless what the topic is, > You can bet it’ll soon be 'bout him! Yes, it happens _constantly_. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/834 "2019-05-08T17:52:33Z")
And oh, what lows we’ll hit… On with the **Ditka** bullshit! ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/835 "2019-05-08T18:09:44Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Respectfully I will bow out of the BBQ pit, hopefully never to return. Great. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/836 "2019-05-08T18:59:57Z")
(This is the first I’ve heard of “threaded mode” but I can’t be arsed to skim and find out what it is. Is it amusing?) **Diktbrat** ’s posts don’t appear for me (and I’ve never been tempted to spend an extra click to view a **Diktbrat** defecation), but his absence makes me more aware of **D’Anconia**. If **Diktbrat** is a moron pretending to be an imbecile, then **D’Anconia** is an imbecile pretending to be an idiot. It’s off-topic in this thread, I guess, but what’s the point in giving these filth the pleasure of a personal Pit thread? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/837 "2019-05-09T20:59:42Z")
Here HD equates bodily autonomy for women with deliberately dropping babies: > [@Georgia governor signs strictest abortion bill in nation](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/georgia-governor-signs-strictest-abortion-bill-in-nation/833659/171): > > I think we agree that an infant in your arms, if one changes his mind about wanting to hold that infant, is now violating one’s bodily autonomy (but feel free to chime in if I’ve misunderstood you). Why then, is one obligated to “put it down”, expending the extra calories to bend over and place it gently on the ground, risking a strained back or hip or knee injury, expending those extra calories involved in the effort, etc.? Why can’t one just drop the baby? Surely you agree that’s the most expeditious route to restoring one’s bodily autonomy, right? God what a terrible father he’s going to be, if he’s IRL anything like the misogynistic piece of shit he is online. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/838 "2019-05-09T21:09:32Z")
Makes perfect sense if HD was dropped as a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/839 "2019-05-09T21:13:11Z")
\God what a terrible father I will/ed be, if I’m IRL anything like the antiracist religious zealots John McWhorter talks about.\ FTFY 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/840 "2019-05-09T21:14:16Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > (This is the first I’ve heard of “threaded mode” but I can’t be arsed to skim and find out what it is. Is it amusing?) > > **Diktbrat** ’s posts don’t appear for me (and I’ve never been tempted to spend an extra click to view a **Diktbrat** defecation), but his absence makes me more aware of **D’Anconia**. > > If **Diktbrat** is a moron pretending to be an imbecile, then **D’Anconia** is an imbecile pretending to be an idiot. > It’s off-topic in this thread, I guess, but what’s the point in giving these filth the pleasure of a personal Pit thread? Yeah! All these years here and NO ONE has seen fit to Pit _me_. And I’m a Charter Member! Srsly, WTF? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=43)