# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/861 "2019-05-10T18:32:14Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Unless it crosses extreme lines of actively promoting hate & violence

You mean like defending Timothy McVeigh?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/862 "2019-05-10T18:44:40Z")

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[Here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21635623&postcount=157), he gets called on bullshitting, but lacks the integrity to admit it. “Cites, you say? You wouldn’t be worth the trouble even if I weren’t making this shit up.”

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/863 "2019-05-13T15:18:42Z")

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I don’t engage with him anymore. Not worth the trouble nor do I want to incur the wrath of one of the moderators.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/864 "2019-05-13T17:43:56Z")

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Reading between the lines, HD is rooting for war with Iran: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21639784#post21639784](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21639784#post21639784)

Of course, he’s too much of a coward to actually volunteer in such circumstances. But not surprising to see him apparently rooting for death and destruction once again.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/865 "2019-05-13T18:14:28Z")

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Guys. I’ve been tempted from time to time to tell Ditka exactly what I think of him.

Except there’s no point. He’s an inhuman sack of shit. Therefore, telling him that he’s an inhuman sack of shit won’t do any good. A normal human being, sure. We have plenty of dolts here, and correcting them is worthwhile. But I never feel tempted to blast the dolts, because they’re just dolts.

Ditka is different. He’s not worth engaging, because he’s not a human being. He’s not offering his dumb opinions because he wants to discuss things, he’s a pure troll who’s hobby is making this message board worse.

It could be worthwhile to post corrections to his lies, but not in the context of engaging him. Correct the misinformation without addressing him. You might get upset about the crap he posts, but I guarantee you that he never once gets upset about the things other people say about him. Your opinions are meaningless to him, because, again, he’s an inhuman sack of shit. If he were just an asshole you could call him on being an asshole, and maybe he’d listen or maybe he wouldn’t. But you aren’t going to hurt his feelings, like a normal person would, because he doesn’t care one bit about human beings.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/866 "2019-05-13T18:27:53Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Guys. I’ve been tempted from time to time to tell Ditka exactly what I think of him.
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> Except there’s no point. He’s an inhuman sack of shit. Therefore, telling him that he’s an inhuman sack of shit won’t do any good. A normal human being, sure. We have plenty of dolts here, and correcting them is worthwhile. But I never feel tempted to blast the dolts, because they’re just dolts.
> 
> Ditka is different. He’s not worth engaging, because he’s not a human being. He’s not offering his dumb opinions because he wants to discuss things, he’s a pure troll who’s hobby is making this message board worse.
> 
> It could be worthwhile to post corrections to his lies, but not in the context of engaging him. Correct the misinformation without addressing him. You might get upset about the crap he posts, but I guarantee you that he never once gets upset about the things other people say about him. Your opinions are meaningless to him, because, again, he’s an inhuman sack of shit. If he were just an asshole you could call him on being an asshole, and maybe he’d listen or maybe he wouldn’t. But you aren’t going to hurt his feelings, like a normal person would, because he doesn’t care one bit about human beings.

I think this is the correct alternative to either engaging him directly or putting him on Ignore. What on Twitter is called “side-tweeting,” IIRC. Basically responding to disinformation on threads without actually replying to the author and thereby getting dragged into his vitriol.

IOW, Ditka posts something you know to be wrong: don’t reply, don’t quote him, just post the actual facts in a new post on the thread.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/867 "2019-05-13T18:30:02Z")

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I’ve used that precise strategy a handful of times – correcting incorrect, bigoted, or otherwise stupid bullshit from Ditka without quoting him or otherwise indicating that I’m actually responding to his posts. He almost always responds with more bullshit or nitpickery, and I usually manage to ignore him, unless it’s with another unquoted correction.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/868 "2019-05-13T18:34:48Z")

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This is a guy who responded to a link with an article title that says “Socially Liberal, Fiscally conservative voters supported Trump in 2016” by asking the person who posted it, “So who do you think SL/FC voters preferred in 2016?”

So… yeah. Don’t address him.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/869 "2019-05-13T18:53:27Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’ve used that precise strategy a handful of times – correcting incorrect, bigoted, or otherwise stupid bullshit from Ditka without quoting him or otherwise indicating that I’m actually responding to his posts. He almost always responds with more bullshit or nitpickery, and I usually manage to ignore him, unless it’s with another unquoted correction.

Just did that myself. I quoted him on something that he said that he didn’t say. It was black and freaking white. He just nitpicked and danced around it. Blaming me of course.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/870 "2019-05-14T02:02:50Z")

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I do this with the bullshit he posts about Mormonism. He’s a Mormon so he posts deliberate misinformation about it to make it seem less creepy. I simply post the correct info.

It’s a win-win. I don’t have to engage with him and the Dope gets to see what a great representative of “the Church” he is. Every member is a missionary, as they say.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/871 "2019-05-14T02:16:41Z")

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I once accidentally called him **HurricanDickhead** in a MPSIMS thread and [didn’t even get a warning.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20411077&postcount=433) I hope that really pissed him off…he likes crying to the mods over every perceived infraction.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/872 "2019-05-14T14:22:25Z")

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[Two years ago, I requested that a warning against **HurricaneDitka** be rescinded.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20123131&postcount=110) And that request was granted. I apologize to Dopers for this — he’d be a step closer to BANNING had I known then what I know now.

Since then I think he’s whined to the Mods twice to get me Warned. I’ve also been Warned just for mimicking his “not entirely unreasonable.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/873 "2019-05-14T14:29:12Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I once accidentally called him **HurricanDickhead** in a MPSIMS thread and [didn’t even get a warning.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20411077&postcount=433) I hope that really pissed him off…he likes crying to the mods over every perceived infraction.

I called him Dickta in a thread and got the warning. Richly deserved, but still… sometimes shit just happens, ya’ know?

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/874 "2019-05-14T14:30:47Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> [Two years ago, I requested that a warning against **HurricaneDitka** be rescinded.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20123131&postcount=110) And that request was granted. I apologize to Dopers for this — he’d be a step closer to BANNING had I known then what I know now.

No, he probably wouldn’t, sadly.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/875 "2019-05-14T22:29:05Z")

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Ditka all but admits that he’s a gutless coward in this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875473](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875473)

I assert (not in response to any particular post) that [any young and healthy person who advocates for a war that they aren’t willing to fight in is a coward](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642158#post21642158).

Ditka responds:

> [@Trump's about to go into a foreign policy death spiral.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-about-to-go-into-a-foreign-policy-death-spiral/833905/38):
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> So did you oppose the airborne assault on Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan?

I break my rule and respond:

> [@Trump's about to go into a foreign policy death spiral.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-about-to-go-into-a-foreign-policy-death-spiral/833905/39):
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> I was neither consulted nor informed beforehand. Had I been, I would have gladly volunteered, not that the Navy could have used any of my skills in that instance.
> 
> What about you? Do you plan to volunteer to serve if Trump gets us into war with Venezuela or Iran?

Crickets. At least for this question – he responds to other posts ([tying himself in knots](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21642437&postcount=46) to avoid admitting to cowardice), and in other threads… but somehow not this one. Heh.

As I said in that thread, his refusal to respond is kind of a response in itself. What a gutless, misogynistic coward.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/876 "2019-05-15T00:13:03Z")

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Ha! Coward HD’s answer is basically “I can be a coward if I want to and you SJWs can’t stop me!”: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642776#post21642776](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642776#post21642776)

Still didn’t actually answer my question (though it’s clear we can consider it answered), but obviously he’s far too cowardly to admit his cowardice.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/877 "2019-05-15T00:25:48Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Ha! Coward HD’s answer is basically “I can be a coward if I want to and you SJWs can’t stop me!”: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642776#post21642776](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642776#post21642776)
> 
> Still didn’t actually answer my question (though it’s clear we can consider it answered), but obviously he’s far too cowardly to admit his cowardice.

Wow, that’s a really bullshit response, even for him. Where did the reference to SJWs come from? I guess it’s some thin line to some bizarre view that SJWs insist that you can only comment if you’ve walked in someone’s shoes? More like he was cornered and lashing out, I think.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/878 "2019-05-20T19:07:59Z")

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HD opened a thread on Friday about some dumb video he watched online and so far it’s gotten a whopping 0 replies. Why, because he’s a wanker and no one likes him!😛

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875702](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875702)

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/879 "2019-05-20T19:19:51Z")

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He seems to have some kind of weird hard on for New Zealand since the massacre. That thread is probably related to his fetish somehow.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/880 "2019-05-20T20:37:42Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Ditka all but admits that he’s a gutless coward in this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875473](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=875473)
> 
> I assert (not in response to any particular post) that [any young and healthy person who advocates for a war that they aren’t willing to fight in is a coward](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21642158#post21642158).
> 
> Ditka responds:
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> I break my rule and respond:
> 
> Crickets. At least for this question – he responds to other posts ([tying himself in knots](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21642437&postcount=46) to avoid admitting to cowardice), and in other threads… but somehow not this one. Heh.
> 
> As I said in that thread, his refusal to respond is kind of a response in itself. What a gutless, misogynistic coward.

I know that this old, but I’m confused here. What difference does Ditka’s bravery or cowardice make? The war is either a good idea or it isn’t. If it is we have a professional army capable of waging it. This isn’t a desperate siege where every able bodied adult must take arms and rush to the wall.

If the war is a bad idea (it is) and Ditka stormed into the recruitment office demanding he be sent to the front lines, would that make it a good idea?

If the war is a good idea (it isn’t) and Ditka was crying that he’s too young to die, that they should send someone else, would that make it a bad idea?

No and no. So what difference does his attitude make? Why do you care so much about him. Honestly, reading that thread I got the feeling he was enjoying himself making you dance to his tune.

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