# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1061 "2019-08-29T03:56:21Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I think it’s in poor taste and ghoulish to celebrate the death of someone over minor ideological differences.

Funding climate change denial to avoid taking a hit on your fossil fuel business at the expense of every other living being on this planet is not “minor ideological differences”. He won’t have to live with the consequences of his actions. We all will. I would be glad about the death of anyone that was as harmful to the world as he was.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1062 "2019-08-29T03:56:54Z")

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The whole fucking point of **iiandyiiii** bringing it up is that it would at least be understandable if it **was** idealogical differences, but in this case it’s not idealogical differences. HD would celebrate her death just because it would make people he doesn’t like sad. That’s not an ideology.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1063 "2019-08-29T05:51:15Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> HD would celebrate her death just because it would make people he doesn’t like sad. That’s not an ideology.

I disagree. I think that is core to HD’s ideology.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1064 "2019-08-29T13:20:22Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I think it’s in poor taste and ghoulish to celebrate the death of someone over minor ideological differences.

I agree. You should let HD know how you feel, as the compassionate conservative that you are.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1065 "2019-08-31T00:30:00Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> An odd criterion. At what point do you consider that “ideological differences” with someone become non-“minor” enough that it’s **not** in poor taste and ghoulish to celebrate their death?

Truly evil folks like Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, etc. I’m sure there are some elected officials and business folks in the in the US that deserve their deaths celebrated. I just think it’s poor taste to be so degenerate when it comes to differences concerning things like having a free market agenda.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1066 "2019-08-31T01:09:34Z")

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“Free market agenda”? You have a gift for euphemism.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1067 "2019-08-31T09:51:52Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Truly evil folks like Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, etc. I’m sure there are some elected officials and business folks in the in the US that deserve their deaths celebrated. I just think it’s poor taste to be so degenerate when it comes to differences concerning things like having a free market agenda.

So then this,  
‘If Ginsburg dies while President Trump is in office it will be epic.’  
is in poor taste, correct?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1068 "2019-08-31T13:10:48Z")

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^^Where was that posted? I searched and can’t find it.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1069 "2019-08-31T13:55:43Z")

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Loath as I am to defend **HD** , his remark implies that it isn’t the death itself, but the anticipation of the tsunami of liberal tears to follow that gives him a li’l chubby. If an old woman has to drop dead to set it off, so be it.

That her timely croaking would put us one step closer to the anarcho-capitalist white supremacist theocracy mandated by Jesus— okay, not in so many words, more of a read-between-the-lines reading— is just an added bonus.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1070 "2019-08-31T14:02:09Z")

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> [@TheCuse](#):
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> ^^Where was that posted? I searched and can’t find it.

It isn’t a ‘quote’ it’s a paraphrase of this,

> [@How Much Longer Does Ginsburg Have?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/143):
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> If Ginsburg dies while President Trump is in office, liberals will absolutely lose their shit. It will be epic.

I’m simply trying to pin octopus’ actual line down.

‘Truly evil folks like Hitler. I’m sure there are some elected officials in the US that deserve their deaths celebrated.’  
The next question is what the fuck are you talking about? Which American elected officials compares to FUCKING HITLER?

My fear is that octopus’ moral compass is so broken it doesn’t have a needle.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1071 "2019-08-31T20:41:49Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> So then this,  
> ‘If Ginsburg dies while President Trump is in office it will be epic.’  
> is in poor taste, correct?
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> CMC fnord!

Celebrating Ginsburg’s death is in poor taste. Liberal melt downs are usually fun though. That is a dilemma.

However, practically speaking, in the long term it’s counterproductive to gloat in the face of grief and despair. One of the troubling things in today’s politics is that emotional manipulation and tribalism are so powerful.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1072 "2019-08-31T20:53:45Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Liberal melt downs are usually fun though.

Why? Try to be precise. It’s for posterity.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1073 "2019-09-01T01:20:20Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Why? Try to be precise. It’s for posterity.

Why? Same reason some folks enjoy melts from the side they oppose. It’s a flaw in empathy.

Personally, I think celebrating a melt because of a death or something that is upsetting to the rational amongst us is still in poor taste. When Trump was elected I wasn’t initially poking at the upset liberals. I understood their concerns and fears and I didn’t think ridiculing would help.

When Ginsburg or others on the left die you won’t find me in threads celebrating the fact or celebrating the grief others have.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1074 "2019-09-01T06:08:13Z")

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Still waiting,  
Which American elected officials compares to FUCKING HITLER?

CMC fnord!

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1075 "2019-09-01T14:24:09Z")

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^^^Well the way people around here piss and moan about Trump every other sentence, I 'd think Trump would be on that list for some.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1076 "2019-09-01T15:24:28Z")

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^^^Yeah I know, eh? All that tiresome pissing and moaning about Pres. Wog-Crusher. And in the pit, too. I can’t imagine.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1077 "2019-09-01T15:41:18Z")

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> [@TheCuse](#):
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> ^^^Well the way people around here piss and moan about Trump every other sentence, I 'd think Trump would be on that list for some.

Because criticizing someone for being a fucking moron is _ **exactly** _ the same as comparing them to Hitler. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1078 "2019-09-01T16:46:50Z")

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Buuut- those who hasten the Earth down a path such that it gets hot as an oven in some places and millions die, well, maybe the exact intent isn’t the same but what is really the difference?

Hitler- kills millions of people because he hates them and needs a scapegoat.

Trump, Kochs, et. al- kill millions of people, they do hold the poor in contempt but really they were recklessly trying to make a buck.

Go ahead and split that hair, tell me that millions dead needs to be put in context or something.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1079 "2019-09-01T17:34:35Z")

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Being happy when RBG dies, who has never hurt anyone, and is intelligent and compassionate, simply because lefties will fear the result on the court is not the same thing as taking joy in the death of an ignorant, hurtful asshole. This is a distinction that right wing simpletons are inherently unable to comprehend. So they can naturally go fuck themselves.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1080 "2019-09-01T18:14:14Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Because criticizing someone for being a fucking moron is _ **exactly** _ the same as comparing them to Hitler. :rolleyes:

Criticism. That’s what you call it?

Hey–I can do roll my eyes too:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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