# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1101 "2019-09-26T04:56:03Z")
Oh, and his current line of stupidity to advocate for evil is this: > [@The Trump Impeachment Inquiry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/420): > > That’s funny, your article doesn’t say anything about “quid pro quo”. It says they understood it as a “precondition”. Do you understand that those are two different things? Essentially, he’s giving all sorts of forms of “if Trump doesn’t literally say to the Ukranian president ‘I’m offering a quid pro quo arrangement’ then it’s obviously not quid pro quo!” - the idea that a preconditioning to talking to Ukraine about the aid is having them agree to investigate Biden is not a quid pro quo arrangement, because, hey, do you see the words quid pro quo there? Owned, libcucks. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1102 "2019-09-26T05:18:38Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Alright, so there are often accusations on the internet of people being shills. Someone says “roundup probably isn’t as unhealthy as some of the pesticides it replaced” and you get accused of being in the pockets of Monsanto. If you debunk alt meds, you’re a big pharma shill. Etc. There’s probably about 10,000x more accusations of shilling than actual shilling, if it exists at all. > > Although we do know that state actors do have people go online and shill, troll, and otherwise sow discord as a modern age cyber/psyops warfare against rival countries. > > I don’t have any reason to believe HurricaneDitka is a shill, and that’s kind of sad, actually. He works so very hard for evil and he’s doing it all on his own free time. He’s not even selling out - he’s being evil and dishonest and acting in bad faith and serving the interests of the Republican party (and by extension usually the Russians) just to rile the libs. He doesn’t get anything out of it. He’s a vile piece of shit trying to sow discord and damage his own country for the fun of it. What a world. > > The thing is - if he was a paid shill by the Republican party or the Russian government, would any of his behavior be any different? How would you be able to tell? > > Anyway, he’s up to his usual, trying to Baghdad Bob in the impeachment thread. Oh, Clinton was impeached because the republicans investigated him. Trump will be impeached because the democrats investigated him. So both sides are the same, and if you don’t think so, obviously you’re just too partisan to see the truth! Doesn’t matter if Trump commits a hundred crimes worse than anything Clinton did, or the Republicans were running sham investigations for years desperate to find anything, and the Democrats are actually under-investigating and under-reacting to Trump’s multitude of crimes. Both sides are exactly the same. Obama wore a tan suit, Trump can nuke Canada - each side doesn’t like the other’s politicians and therefore everyone is exactly equal. > > The shitstain always acts in bad faith: > > No good faith actor could’ve said what he just said. The US Congress approved the aid package to Ukraine. Trump has withheld that aid package for 7 months now. Finally, Trump, having to give in and give the package, tries to extort Ukraine into giving him something personally in return for fulfilling the duty he’s legally obligated to do placed upon him by Congress, and from this, Ditka concludes: HAHA LIBS, YOU THINK TRUMP WORKS FOR RUSSIA AND YET HE SINGLE HANDEDLY GENEROUSLY DECIDED TO GIVE UKRAINE A GIANT MILITARY AID PACKAGE. YOU CAN’T EVEN GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! OWNED, CUCKS! > > The thing is - there’s value in representing contrary viewpoints on this board. It’s good that it’s not a complete echo chamber. But if people aren’t acting in good faith, it’s a waste of time, it’s just trolling. That’s something I can’t accept or forgive. You left out the far right’s freak-out when President Obama did what he was legally obligated to do: fork over the government of Iran’s own money to the government of Iran. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1103 "2019-09-26T05:32:19Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > He’s a vile piece of shit trying to sow discord and damage his own country for the fun of it. What a world. This. He’s an unmitigated, vile asshole. And he’s proud of it. He posts contradictory, idotic and asinine garbage. And he’s genuinely proud of it. He stands over his posts like a dog over it’s vomit, thinking what a fabulous piece of art he’s produced. And you know what? There are many out there like this. Some are worse. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1104 "2019-09-26T10:48:47Z")
If the Board’s stated goal is to fight ignorance, is the mission to do so enhanced or detracted by the presence of liars, trolls, and other people who refuse to talk in good faith? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1105 "2019-09-26T10:56:59Z")
HurricaneDikta’s sole purpose on this board is to “own da libz”. No lie too big, no evasion too blatant, and absolutely no good faith allowed. Anything that riles up da libz is a good thing in his estimation. So, yeah, a troll. But, he’s part of the protected class - he has to blatantly break the rules to be sanctioned, and he’s (just) smart enough not to do that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1106 "2019-09-26T11:39:07Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > HurricaneDikta’s sole purpose on this board is to “own da libz”. No lie too big, no evasion too blatant, and absolutely no good faith allowed. Anything that riles up da libz is a good thing in his estimation. > So, yeah, a troll. Exactly! There’s nothing he values more than angering liberals. Not opposing bigotry. Not opposing abuse of women and children. Nothing. He’s kind of unique among Doper conservatives in that, by my reading. > [@](#): > > But, he’s part of the protected class - he has to blatantly break the rules to be sanctioned, and he’s (just) smart enough not to do that. I think the mods have wised up a tad to his silliness, but they still miss most of his blatant trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1107 "2019-09-26T11:43:20Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > HurricaneDikta’s sole purpose on this board is to “own da libz”. No lie too big, no evasion too blatant, and absolutely no good faith allowed. Anything that riles up da libz is a good thing in his estimation. > So, yeah, a troll. > But, he’s part of the protected class - he has to blatantly break the rules to be sanctioned, and he’s (just) smart enough not to do that. The bar for the mods on this board to decide something is trolling is at least as high as the GOP is for interpreting Trump’s actions in the correct way. For Trump to be seen extorting Ukraine he would have to say “If you don’t make up lies about my opponents, I will never give you the aid you need. By the way, this isn’t a joke and I’m aware it’s a lie. He’s Mike Pence to confirm that we’re doing crimes.” And HD would have to say “I’m trolling you all right now you stupid fucks. I can’t believe you let me get away with this for years. Ed Zotti can suck my cock.” ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1108 "2019-09-26T12:36:28Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Alright,… The important takeaway for me from this excellent post is, don’t get on **SenorBeef** ’s bad side. Jeez, that was pretty epic. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1109 "2019-09-26T12:42:13Z")
He’s either an idiot or totally brainwashed. I think where he came from, the smart kids who made fun of him were liberals, so he’s exacting his revenge here. Nothing pleases him more than goading someone into attacking him and drawing a warning from the mods. I find that not engaging him is the best strategy. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1110 "2019-09-26T14:05:36Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think where he came from, the smart kids who made fun of him were liberals Still are. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1111 "2019-09-26T19:17:40Z")
Worthless poster HD is warned by **Bone** : [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1112 "2019-09-26T19:21:38Z")
If my memory is right, that’s at least 4 warnings in the last year for HD. [Reminds me of something that just happened…](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=882661) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1113 "2019-09-26T19:43:32Z")
Hey, what’s the rule for laughing at people who get a warning in the thread where they got a warning? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1114 "2019-09-26T19:44:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Worthless poster HD is warned by **Bone** : > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462) This day just keeps getting better!😃 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1115 "2019-09-26T19:59:14Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Worthless poster HD is warned by **Bone** : > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462) His posts may be worthless, but he makes it up in volume. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1116 "2019-09-26T21:23:32Z")
i really hope Ditka’s little baby grows up to be a lying gaslighting piece of shit, just like his daddy. And I hope he steals his parents blind and commits credit card fraud in their name, then denies it, then accuses his parents of child abuse when they try to discipline him. Maybe the kid will even get HD sent to prison. I know this is a pipe dream, but it would be delicious karma. Yum Yum. Because this is the moral standard that this shithead is espousing, and the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1117 "2019-09-26T21:25:04Z")
I, um… yow. I hope the child grows beyond the limitations of the parenting given them. Hell, I hope that about _my_ kid! ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1118 "2019-09-26T23:04:13Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > His posts may be worthless, but he makes it up in volume. That is my main beef with him. Yes he’s a troll and an idiot and all of those other words, but it seems like any thread that anyone starts, soon enough he shows up flinging poo all over and dominating the discussion. I start to read a thread, I see his tempest-in-a-teapot crap, and it’s not worth reading any more. It’s just so tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1119 "2019-09-27T03:19:37Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If my memory is right, that’s at least 4 warnings in the last year for HD. [Reminds me of something that just happened…](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=882661) This. Most posters with four warnings or so in less than a year seem to end up eventually banned, either because they simply can’t control themselves, or because they decide they might as well go out in a blaze of suicide-by-mod glory. I never use the Ignore function, but HD is one of a very few posters that I functionally (well, mostly) ignore. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1120 "2019-09-27T03:30:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > i really hope Ditka’s little baby grows up to be a lying gaslighting piece of shit, just like his daddy. And I hope he steals his parents blind and commits credit card fraud in their name, then denies it, then accuses his parents of child abuse when they try to discipline him. Maybe the kid will even get HD sent to prison. I know this is a pipe dream, but it would be delicious karma. Yum Yum. > > Because this is the moral standard that this shithead is espousing, and the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Ehhhh, I can sorta understand your feelings here, but then society would still have to deal with another horrible person. I’d rather his spawn see his bullshit for what it is and either sever ties with him altogether, or actually being able to talk some sense into him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=57)