# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1501 "2019-10-24T22:12:12Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I noted carefully the conditions you stipulated. My impressions of the reality in which I find myself lead me to understand that, with a vanishingly small number of exceptions, it is NOT an option. They also lead me to understand that the vast majority of individuals for whom it IS an option have found themselves a niche, if you will, in which emigration is not the optimal choice for them to make.
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> This all leads me to conclude that, while suggesting that it’s an option is not in and of itself racist, it _IS_ pig-ignorant.

Then, I suppose, those who engage in hyperbolic emotional rhetoric are doing so knowingly. Which is their right of course. But don’t be surprised when people tire of hyperbolic emotional rhetoric.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1502 "2019-10-24T22:32:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **octopus**  
> I actually do have black friends.

Pro-tip: Your accountant does not count.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1503 "2019-10-24T23:38:07Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Pro-tip: Your accountant does not count.

Seems like that’d be a requirement.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1504 "2019-10-24T23:47:28Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Seems like that’d be a requirement.

There are three types of accountants. Those who can count, and those who can’t.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1505 "2019-10-25T00:19:37Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I don’t think the US is like 1930s Germany or any of the other countries that became authoritarian. I don’t think Trump is anything like Hitler. I think that sort of nonsense is exceedingly counterproductive. Crying Nazi about every Republican since Lincoln isn’t really helpful when a real Hitler comes along.

Drawing key historic analogies is not the same as equating Trump with Hitler. It’s a cautionary tale meant to remind people who are at risk of repeating mistakes of the past.

Now, what were you saying earlier about being glad for the opportunity of having a nuanced discussion? Still think you’re up to it?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1506 "2019-10-25T00:24:52Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Drawing key historic analogies is not the same as equating Trump with Hitler. It’s a cautionary tale meant to remind people who are at risk of repeating mistakes of the past.
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> Now, what were you saying earlier about being glad for the opportunity of having a nuanced discussion? Still think you’re up to it?

Well, thank you for the clarification. And as long as the nuance doesn’t attract sealions or the hive then of course.

I just find it very interesting that the party that thinks that the state is the natural provider of things becomes very concerned with state power whenever they lose an election.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1507 "2019-10-25T00:55:18Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> There are three types of accountants. Those who can count, and those who can’t.

Aside: Do you know the difference between _counting_ and _accounting_?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1508 "2019-10-25T01:01:39Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I just find it very interesting that the party that thinks that the state is the natural provider of things becomes very concerned with state power whenever they lose an election.

As far as I know, the Communist Party has never won an election in the United States, so what you say here makes no sense.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1509 "2019-10-25T01:02:48Z")

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Do I have to un-ignore Hurricane Ditka to set this thread straight? All of you octopus feeding mother fuckers can fuck off.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1510 "2019-10-25T11:48:24Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Do I have to un-ignore Hurricane Ditka to set this thread straight? All of you octopus feeding mother fuckers can fuck off.

Wait a goddamn minute. You have HD on ignore presumably because you want to avoid his nonsense, but you regularly follow a thread about him in the pit - a thread in which he does not participate - so that you can keep up on the play-by-paly of what HD’s been up to lately. And then you get irritated when people engage with someone who has assumed the role of HD’s personal attorney/white night. I think you need to take a beat and consider the possibility that you’re in no position to dictate who’s feeding who on a subject that is ostensibly on your ignore list. Motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1511 "2019-10-25T12:02:32Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Aside: Do you know the difference between _counting_ and _accounting_?

One of them is cooler because it has AC?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1512 "2019-10-25T12:18:18Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> One of them is cooler because it has AC?

Not bad. No. Counting is “one, two, three”. Accounting is “a-one, a-two, a-three”.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1513 "2019-10-25T12:26:23Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Not bad. No. Counting is “one, two, three”. Accounting is “a-one, a-two, a-three”.

I’m warning you, if this thread breaks into a musical number I’m flipping this table and leaving.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1514 "2019-10-25T12:33:46Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m warning you, if this thread breaks into a musical number I’m flipping this table and leaving.

OOOH OOOH, what about a rousing chorus of “one eight seven seven Kars four Kids”?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1515 "2019-10-25T12:46:22Z")

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Eight hundred five eight eight, two three hundred, Empire! (Today!)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1516 "2019-10-25T12:55:42Z")

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Bastards!

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1517 "2019-10-25T13:30:37Z")

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H-o-t-w-i-r-e! Hotwire dot com!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1518 "2019-10-25T13:59:15Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m warning you, if this thread breaks into a musical number I’m flipping this table and leaving.

[😃](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUgnBXSsY4)

Go ahead. Click on the smiley.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1519 "2019-10-25T14:08:48Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [😃](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUgnBXSsY4)
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> Go ahead. Click on the smiley.

You’re on the list.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1520 "2019-10-25T14:15:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [😃](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHUgnBXSsY4)
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> Go ahead. Click on the smiley.

I need you to review [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=865S1zMcWMo&feature=player_embedded) and tell me what you think.

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