# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1541 "2019-10-31T14:47:55Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > HDickhead happy for homeless having issues in cold Salt Lake City. You could even read this as cheering homeless folks dying due to harsh conditions. I don’t read it like that at all. I see it as they will have to move elsewhere to get out of the cold (i.e., out of Salt Lake City). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1542 "2019-10-31T14:49:21Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > My read was actually charitable: that the homeless would move south/somewhere warmer. It didn’t occur to me until later (when another poster mentioned it) that the homeless dying off reading was probably also meant. I guess that’s what I get for always trying to think the best of people. So the best that can be thought of him is that as long as the homeless are somebody else’s problem he’s cool with their suffering? Yeah, sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1543 "2019-10-31T14:54:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So the best that can be thought of him is that as long as the homeless are somebody else’s problem he’s cool with their suffering? > > Yeah, sounds about right. Indeed. I thought the comment was revolting before I even came across the less charitable interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1544 "2019-10-31T15:06:27Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > I don’t read it like that at all. I see it as they will have to move elsewhere to get out of the cold (i.e., out of Salt Lake City). Yeah, because if there is one thing we know about the homeless, beyond their lacking a home, it’s their owning of the resources required to move around and travel. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1545 "2019-10-31T15:13:44Z")
^^Fuck your eye roll. Did I say the homeless were going to up and move in U-Hauls or something? Nope. I just don’t agree with your interpretation that HD wants them dead. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1546 "2019-10-31T15:19:14Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > ^^Fuck your eye roll. > > Did I say the homeless were going to up and move in U-Hauls or something? Nope. > > I just don’t agree with your interpretation that HD wants them dead. Either HD wants them dead, or he’s too fucking stupid to understand that homeless people don’t have the resources to move, and therefore some of them will die from this cold snap regardless of their desire to move where it’s warmer. I don’t see much of a difference between malice and malicious ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1547 "2019-10-31T15:23:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Do I have to un-ignore Hurricane Ditka to set this thread straight? All of you octopus feeding mother fuckers can fuck off. Seriously. I’m about ready to push the button on him, too. Quit quoting him, knotheads. You’re harshing my mellow. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1548 "2019-10-31T15:24:34Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > “Everyone should ignore him” is not my idea. I’m scatalogically against the “Ignore” list concept. > > Just seems strange to complain about someone trying to hijack a thread and then help them hijack it. “The producers wish to announce that those who hijacked the …” Never mind. It’s too damn early in the morning for this. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1549 "2019-10-31T15:29:40Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Either HD wants them dead, or he’s too fucking stupid to understand that homeless people don’t have the resources to move, and therefore some of them will die from this cold snap regardless of their desire to move where it’s warmer. > > I don’t see much of a difference between malice and malicious ignorance. Yes–folks do die when it’s cold out. And some are homeless. But some do go inside when it’s cold (if room available at the shelters). Hopefully they can take advantage of it, or their city sends out volunteers to try to get them inside. I know my city takes that very seriously. I don’t know what HD meant. He was probably of the opinion, that if they are cold enough they’ll go elsewhere; and not bother anyone. I don’t know. Like I said, I hope they get indoors during this cold, or if they refuse to, the volunteers at least convince them to take blankets or warm clothes that are provided. I just thought HD didn’t mean death when he made that statement. But–you all know him better than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1550 "2019-10-31T15:30:27Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > “The producers wish to announce that those who hijacked the …” > > Never mind. It’s too damn early in the morning for this. It’s 11:30 in the afternoon! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1551 "2019-10-31T15:32:21Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > It’s 11:30 in the afternoon! > > 🙂 Hey, babe, if I can still taste the toothpaste, it’s too early. Don’t care if the sun’s going _down._ 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1552 "2019-10-31T15:39:26Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > Yes–folks do die when it’s cold out. And some are homeless. > > But some do go inside when it’s cold (if room available at the shelters). Hopefully they can take advantage of it, or their city sends out volunteers to try to get them inside. I know my city takes that very seriously. > > I don’t know what HD meant. He was probably of the opinion, that if they are cold enough they’ll go elsewhere; and not bother anyone. I don’t know. > > Like I said, I hope they get indoors during this cold, or if they refuse to, the volunteers at least convince them to take blankets or warm clothes that are provided. > > I just thought HD didn’t mean death when he made that statement. But–you all know him better than I do. When it gets terribly cold in any major city, some number of homeless people will die. This is an indisputable fact. HD is happy that it will be getting cold in his city because of the affect it will have on the homeless. You can be charitable if you want but either HD is so goddamn stupid that he doesn’t know the first point is true, or he’s pure evil. And honestly, if someone of his means doesn’t know the first point is true, fuck 'em. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1553 "2019-10-31T15:44:21Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > ^^Fuck your eye roll. > > Did I say the homeless were going to up and move in U-Hauls or something? Nope. > > I just don’t agree with your interpretation that HD wants them dead. I don’t think he _wants_ them dead either. I just don’t think he gives a shit if they do. So long as he doesn’t have to see them, it doesn’t matter what happened to them. But then, he does say that there are some times when it is not entirely unreasonable to kill and injure hundreds of people and children in order to make a political point, so he may very well see their deaths as some sort of noble sacrifice he is more than willing to let them make in order to keep his streets clear of undesirables. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1554 "2019-10-31T16:08:39Z")
@Steronz and @k9bfriender: I admit that when it gets cold her, it will be kind-of-nice to not to have to deal with the folks begging for money every morning at the Dunkin’, but I don’t wish them ill harm. In fact–I see one of the guys every morning and I buy a cup of coffee a couple of times a week. So far as HD–like I said, you folks know him better. You both have a good afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1555 "2019-10-31T16:23:37Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > @Steronz and @k9bfriender: I admit that when it gets cold her, it will be kind-of-nice to not to have to deal with the folks begging for money every morning at the Dunkin’, but I don’t wish them ill harm. > > In fact–I see one of the guys every morning and I buy a cup of coffee a couple of times a week. You say that you don’t wish them harm, but you admit that it is “kind-of-nice” when they are suffering from harm because it is more convenient for you. If that guy you see every morning disappeared and you never saw him again, would you even wonder what his fate was, much less care? > [@](#): > > So far as HD–like I said, you folks know him better. > > You both have a good afternoon. And you too, have a great afternoon. On this cold rainy day, I hope that you find yourself comfortable and warm, even if you don’t carry that hope for those around you. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1556 "2019-10-31T16:59:11Z")
I will. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1557 "2019-11-13T22:40:12Z")
Has Ditka ever described himself as a Constitutionalist, strict or otherwise? [Asking for a friend.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21971293&postcount=4313) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1558 "2019-11-13T22:44:28Z")
I don’t know, but I’m betting he’s a lifelong constipationalist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1559 "2019-11-13T23:38:35Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > **Jonathan** … seems to be unaware of [Bone’s instructions](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21731197#post21731197). [Yep.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21971402&postcount=4342) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1560 "2019-11-13T23:48:40Z")
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