# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1561 "2019-11-14T00:45:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Welcome to the HD Resistance, [Max S.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21971418&postcount=4346) Solid first effort, my friend! Like watching Perry Mason’s best para-legal. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1562 "2019-11-14T01:59:12Z")
I’ve read multiple references to **HD** having no qualms about the OKC bombing. Curious to see a cite. Or elaboration. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1563 "2019-11-14T02:12:57Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I’ve read multiple references to **HD** having no qualms about the OKC bombing. > Curious to see a cite. Or elaboration. Here’s The Post in all its glory… [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20716465&postcount=165](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20716465&postcount=165) I started a thread not in the pit giving him every opportunity to explain himself and you can read for yourself… [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1564 "2019-11-14T12:21:06Z")
In his defense, he did palliate his endorsement of domestic terrorism and mass murder with the phrase “_not entirely_ unreasonable,” so let’s not paint the guy as some kind of monster. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1565 "2019-11-14T12:41:39Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In his defense, he did palliate his endorsement of domestic terrorism and mass murder with the phrase “_not entirely_ unreasonable,” so let’s not paint the guy as some kind of monster. Yes, he’s _not entirely_ morally bankrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1566 "2019-11-14T15:16:22Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I started a thread not in the pit giving him every opportunity to explain himself and you can read for yourself… > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925) Excellent, thanks. Finally got the chance to read the four-pager, and of course HD doesn’t make an appearance, despite it being a non-pit thread. (I don’t know if I saw **Bricker** any more scum-baggy than there, btw) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1567 "2019-11-14T16:01:20Z")
Y’all stop following his idiotic hijacks in the impeachment thread kthxbye ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1568 "2019-11-14T16:27:40Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Y’all stop following his idiotic hijacks in the impeachment thread kthxbye Do you ever wish we had moderators on this board to control obvious trolling? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1569 "2019-11-14T16:43:52Z")
I’ve been reporting HD’s posts that cross the line, it’s easier to get mod attention now that he’s been previously suspended for sealioning. But given nothing is happening on the impeachment front today, why not give him a little bit of rope right now? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1570 "2019-11-14T16:48:46Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I started a thread not in the pit giving him every opportunity to explain himself and you can read for yourself… > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=860925) Wow. Not a single solitary reponse. I honestly don’t grok why he’s still allowed to post here. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1571 "2019-11-14T17:26:29Z")
I can see from what other people quote in the inquiry thread that Ditka is throwing around a certain name. Is that the whistleblower’s alleged name? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1572 "2019-11-14T17:32:52Z")
Worthless, cowardly, rape-enabling piece of shit Ditka blames a woman for “death threats” because she came forward and talked about her experiences: > [@The Trump Impeachment Inquiry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/4474): > > Probably not. Dr. Blasey Ford and her allies exposed Justice Kavanaugh’s family to death threats because they thought it might help their side in a political squabble. I don’t recall many Democrats saying that was “a pretty shitty thing to do”, so the complaint now rings hollow to me. Sorry. God what a worthless, misogynistic scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1573 "2019-11-14T17:40:26Z")
She exposed his family to threats because she came forward about raped, so she’s the bad guy who deserves death threats right back? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1574 "2019-11-14T18:08:36Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Y’all stop following his idiotic hijacks in the impeachment thread kthxbye He’s got everyone dancing on his strings like puppets. Look, none of you have some gotcha that’s going to win the argument. He will continue to ignore any valid points, and sidetrack it every time with nitpicks or tangents. Post about the hearings, and just quit with the efforts to get HD to admit he’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1575 "2019-11-14T18:13:08Z")
I have a feeling we’re about to hear from the mods with a big announcement about HD. I’ll give them time to discuss it and do their duties. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1576 "2019-11-14T18:45:08Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > He’s got everyone dancing on his strings like puppets. > > Look, none of you have some gotcha that’s going to win the argument. He will continue to ignore any valid points, and sidetrack it every time with nitpicks or tangents. Post about the hearings, and just quit with the efforts to get HD to admit he’s wrong. As one of the guilty parties, I’ll step forward and admit my culpability. In my defense Ditka lines up his arguments like ducks in a shooting gallery, and sometimes is fun to plink away at them, knocking one down after another, even if no matter how many you put down the ducks just keep coming. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1577 "2019-11-14T18:51:18Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As one of the guilty parties, I’ll step forward and admit my culpability. Oh yeah, I engage with him when I’m feeling like it. Every post he makes has a minuscule chance of him flaming out. He isn’t going to just go away – eventually the mods will make him change his behavior, one way or another; but it isn’t going to happen if he posts his BS in a vacuum. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1578 "2019-11-14T19:03:05Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Excellent, thanks. > Finally got the chance to read the four-pager, and of course HD doesn’t make an appearance, despite it being a non-pit thread. > (I don’t know if I saw **Bricker** any more scum-baggy than there, btw) I miss Bricker but that was definitely not his finest moment. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1579 "2019-11-14T19:03:46Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As one of the guilty parties, I’ll step forward and admit my culpability. > > In my defense Ditka lines up his arguments like ducks in a shooting gallery, and sometimes is fun to plink away at them, knocking one down after another, even if no matter how many you put down the ducks just keep coming. I hear ya. The counter arguments are so obvious, it’s exceedingly hard to resist, or to even realize what you’re doing until you’ve hit “submit reply”. But stay strong, my friend! > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I have a feeling we’re about to hear from the mods with a big announcement about HD. I’ll give them time to discuss it and do their duties. We’ll see. I think we need to do a better job as debaters if we want it to be clear enough for the mods. For example, I think the simple question “why are the whistleblower’s political views pertinent” is fine. If that was simply repeated when he gave a BS answer or attempted to deflect, his sealioning would be obvious. But I cringe every time someone says “it would be like if…” with yet another analogy to drug dealers or trials or anonymous tips. Your analogies might be great and a useful tool in a good-faith debate. But all you’re doing here with an analogy is giving him ammunition for a tangent. “Well, that’s different because…” or “yes, let’s talk more about this other circumstance.” As long as people continue to ask him questions that give the opportunity for tangents, it can look like he’s responding. You really have to pay attention to realize he’s being very selective in what questions he answers. Make it easier for the mods - ask simple questions that he won’t answer, and skip the “gotchas”. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/1580 "2019-11-14T22:23:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I have a feeling we’re about to hear from the mods with a big announcement about HD. I’ll give them time to discuss it and do their duties. We’ll see. Why do you say that? Did something happen? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952.md?page=80)