# I forget, do we have a general HurricaneDitka Pit thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952 "2018-01-06T00:15:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/141 "2018-01-18T23:36:39Z")

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To be honest, I would hope that such a statement puts H-Ditka on the FBI’s watch list.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/142 "2018-01-18T23:37:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Just to be clear, the actual quote is:
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> To paraphrase is to invite obfuscation.

Yes, it is good that the actual quote is there. McVeigh certainly had a _point_ he was trying to get across, of that there is no doubt.

The question is, is whether or not targeting and killing civilians is a reasonable reaction to some somewhat controversial government actions.

I’m on team “no” on that one.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/143 "2018-01-18T23:38:47Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> To be honest, I would hope that such a statement puts H-Ditka on the FBI’s watch list.

I doubt it, it’s not like the post was on Hillary’s email server or anything.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/144 "2018-01-18T23:47:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> To be honest, I would hope that such a statement puts H-Ditka on the FBI’s watch list.

We’re all on that list. 😉

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/145 "2018-01-19T00:06:03Z")

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I’m not. 😃

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/146 "2018-01-19T00:22:31Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Just to be clear, the actual quote is:  
> To paraphrase is to invite obfuscation.

Obfuscation, like maybe, “I didn’t specify _which_ actions”?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/147 "2018-01-19T13:54:11Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Jesus, you’re whiny. Par for the course for Republicans these days, but you’re just… really _bad_ at it.
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> And your stupid little tagline… do you retype the whole thing every single time, or is there a textfile on your computer you copy and paste? Regardless, it’s too much work for something absolutely nobody fucking cares about, which you only do in a vain attempt to troll someone, _anyone_, who isn’t already put off by your _sterling_ personality and _unparalleled_ use of language, which you demonstrate in this shining gem of a post.

I don’t suppose anyone else recognizes the irony of a post accusing me of whining, and then immediately whining about an issue that has been beaten to death in a half-dozen threads, as well as being the subject of an explicit and direct mod ruling.

I swear, you people bring self-parody to the level of performance art.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/148 "2018-01-19T14:40:11Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose anyone else recognizes the irony of a post accusing me of whining, and then immediately whining about an issue that has been beaten to death in a half-dozen threads, as well as being the subject of an explicit and direct mod ruling.
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> I swear, you people bring self-parody to the level of performance art.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Don’t let the door hit ya…we won’t miss ya.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/149 "2018-01-19T16:38:14Z")

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Whoa, steady up, there, big horse! He’s the conservative gadfly who mocks the pretensions and hypocrisy of the the left! Where could we find another with such eloquence and warm good humor?

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/150 "2018-01-19T16:43:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s the conservative gadfly who mocks the pretensions and hypocrisy of the the left!

Might almost describe him as a conservative version of elucidator …

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/151 "2018-01-19T16:55:47Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I don’t suppose anyone else recognizes the irony of a post accusing me of whining, and then immediately whining about an issue that has been beaten to death in a half-dozen threads, as well as being the subject of an explicit and direct mod ruling.

So, just a little disingenuous lying, then?

I accused you of whining. I didn’t do the second part. Perhaps you are conflating me with everyone else on the board, but your internal paranoia is misleading you. We are not all the same person, intent on bothering you.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/152 "2018-01-19T16:57:31Z")

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Do you even realize that he was quoting someone else’s post and not yours?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/153 "2018-01-19T16:58:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Might almost describe him as a conservative version of elucidator …

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Oh, go right ahead! Somebody might care.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/154 "2018-01-19T17:03:22Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Might almost describe him as a conservative version of elucidator …

You know, **F-P** , even in the Pit there are some insults that are beyond the pale.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/155 "2018-01-19T17:08:03Z")

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Yeah that was pretty unfair to **elucidator**. Below the belt for sure.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/156 "2018-01-19T17:08:37Z")

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You [Shodan] and FP get a room please.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/157 "2018-01-19T17:10:51Z")

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Quit whining.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/158 "2018-01-19T17:12:54Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> You [Shodan] and FP get a room please.

[This one](http://lovelyworld.typepad.com/.a/6a01053579778b970c01156f403289970c-popup) will do.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/159 "2018-01-19T17:15:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Yeah that was pretty unfair to elucidator. Below the belt for sure.

Oh, wouldn’t be _that_ unfair. In my youth, studying for admission to the penitentiary, I was _very_ conservative. Military brat, Goldwater, Ayn Rand, the complete catastrophe! I got better! Someone. probably Twain, made me laugh at something I fiercely believed, and the Wall cracked. Sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll finished the job.

Still think its true, but can’t prove it: you guys are losing because you have no funny. And can’t get any.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-forget-do-we-have-a-general-hurricaneditka-pit-thread/805952/160 "2018-01-19T17:26:25Z")

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Yes, they have no funny.

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