# I Found It! (Abraham Lincoln Alcohol Quote)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 10, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244 "2022-02-10T20:15:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/21 "2022-02-11T18:19:13Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> “I don’t understand teetotalers. They wake up in the morning and that’s it! That’s as good as they’re going to feel all day.”

This one is hilariously misattributed always. It’s from Lawrence Roman.

Who?

He wrote the 1961 play and the 1963 movie scripts for _Under the Yum-Yum Tree_, where the line "I always feel sorry for people who don’t drink, because when they wake up in the morning, that’s as good as they’re gonna feel all day” was said by the character played by Jack Lemmon.

Source is the unimpeachable [Barry Popik](https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/i_feel_sorry_for_people_who_dont_drink_they_wake_up_and_thats_as_good_as_th).

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/22 "2022-02-11T22:56:18Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> “It is true that even then it was known and acknowledged that many were greatly injured by it; but none seemed to think the injury arose from the use of a bad thing, but from the abuse of a very good thing.”

Such a wise man. Thank you for sharing that.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/23 "2022-02-11T23:12:41Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Can a man live without his liquor? That depends on the liver.

Hm… Actually, I think that is mostly my own construction. It looks like the original had nothing to do with alcohol:

> Is life worth living? It all depends on the liver. --William James

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/24 "2022-02-14T21:56:16Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> My dad’s was: Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

That one has been on way too many fraternity party shirts all over the country.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/25 "2022-02-14T22:11:15Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> That one has been on way too many fraternity party shirts all over the country.

It’s on way too message boards over the country.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/26 "2022-02-14T22:32:59Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> It has been postulated that without alcohol, the human race would have died out centuries ago.

An intriguing thought. Do you know the reasoning behind it?

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/27 "2022-02-14T22:55:38Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> An intriguing thought. Do you know the reasoning behind it?

Mainly because it was safer to drink than water until they found out that boiling water first killed most of the germs, or adding certain chemicals did the same.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/28 "2022-02-14T23:51:42Z")

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I thought liquor is quicker was Dorothy Parker.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/29 "2022-02-15T00:17:57Z")

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No, although her reliance upon it was legendary enough to [warrant a label named for her.](https://www.nydistilling.com/spirits/dorothy-parker)

Not fair to Edna St Vincent Millay and Sandy Denny, who each died from falling drunk but didn’t get shit named after them.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/30 "2022-02-15T11:00:40Z")

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I understand it to mean that sans alcohol to lower inhibitions the frequency of sexual intercourse would be much reduced.

To put it another way, there are a lot of people who would never get laid with both partners sober.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/31 "2022-02-15T11:45:15Z")

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> [@carnut](#):
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> Mainly because it was safer to drink than water until they found out that boiling water first killed most of the germs, or adding certain chemicals did the same.

Not a cite or anything but there was a Scientific American article back in the '90s that mentioned that until the late 19th century people generally drank alcohol (in the form of diluted beer etc) instead of just water, for that reason.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/32 "2022-02-15T17:47:09Z")

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Mormons and Muslims seem to keep their numbers growing.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/33 "2022-02-15T21:25:24Z")

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> [@SailorHG](#):
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> One source was the original Willy Wonka movie:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVBIp3q3cms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVBIp3q3cms)

Forty years too late: Ogden Nash wrote the line in 1931.

It was very well known when the movie came out.

[What Does Candy Is Dandy But Liquor Is Quicker Mean? - Writing Explained](https://writingexplained.org/idiom-dictionary/candy-is-dandy-but-liquor-is-quicker#:~:text=Origin%20of%20Candy%20is%20Dandy,Factory%E2%80%9D%20in%20the%20year%201971).

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/34 "2022-02-23T18:43:04Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Gelette Burgess

Gelett Burgess, the “Purple Cow” guy? I think I read a blurb on him once. We’d have to be a bunch of goops to forget him!

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/35 "2022-02-23T23:01:15Z")

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Sounds like Harding, but I don’t really know.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/36 "2022-02-24T14:57:45Z")

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> [@Greg\_Charles](#):
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> Gelett Burgess, the “Purple Cow” guy? I think I read a blurb on him once. We’d have to be a bunch of goops to forget him!

_Frank_ Gelett Burgess, and ISWYDT

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/37 "2022-02-24T22:31:00Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> _Frank_ Gelett Burgess, and ISWYDT

Nice. All three? Purple Cow, blurb, and goops?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/38 "2022-02-25T02:10:09Z")

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> [@Greg\_Charles](#):
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> Nice. All three? Purple Cow, blurb, and goops?

Yeps.

Interesting guy. When an undergraduate at MIT he said that he climbed to the tops of all the church steeples in Boston (on the inside – not the outside) and left his monogram in Phoenician there. I’ve found his monogram in a few books, but I haven’t been able to find it in any of the steeples that I can trace back to his era.

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“Candy is dandy and liquor is quicker  
You can drink all the liquor down in Costa Rica  
Ain’t nobody’s business but my own”

~~Taj Mahal, 1972

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-it-abraham-lincoln-alcohol-quote/959244/40 "2022-05-22T14:15:50Z")

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@Beckdawrek

Your quote “Candy is dandy, liquor is quicker” was created by that clever poet and humorist, Ogden Nash.

When the Flower Children ascended upon the land, and insisted marijuana was better than booze for everything, Mr Nash added to his saying, “Candy is dandy, liquor is quicker. Pot is not.”

~VOW

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