# I found the only person 10 degrees from Kevin Bacon!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 12, 2001, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506 "2001-06-12T05:20:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![StamperQuartet636](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@StamperQuartet636](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StamperQuartet636)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/61 "2012-09-14T05:14:34Z")

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This person is now a 7.

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/62 "2012-09-14T17:15:52Z")

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The best I found so far is a 4! Curse Eli Wallach - nearly every actor I pick before 1950 seems to come through him to Kevin Bacon.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/63 "2012-09-15T01:35:09Z")

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> [@Fiver](#):
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> Y’all have missed the concept: These are all people who have appeared in movies with people who have appeared in movies who…with Kevin Bacon. Just knowing people with a connection is not enough. It’s about _actors_.

First time I’ve ever heard that…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/64 "2012-09-15T04:17:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> This person is now a 7.

What new movie closed the gap?

And as an aside, a friend of mine has both a Bacon number (by virtue of being an uncredited extra) and an Erdös number. I don’t know his Bacon number off the top of my head, but I think his Erdös number is 6.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/65 "2012-09-15T05:28:58Z")

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Mmmmm… zombie bacon!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/66 "2012-09-15T06:28:38Z")

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I call BS.

I just put in the girlfriend’s name.

Her Bacon Number is 3, based on a starting point of a project called “It’s a Match,” in which she did background.

I know, because I woke her up, and in between snarls at having been woken up, she said, “I did fucking BACKGROUND- you woke me up to ask me THAT?!!?!?”

Background is a cop-out.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/67 "2012-09-15T07:28:05Z")

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Fun Google Trick:

You can put _Bacon number [any name]_ into the search box, and if that person has a Bacon number it will display along with its Bacon-chain.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/68 "2012-09-15T08:53:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What new movie closed the gap?

Frost/Nixon (2008)

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/69 "2012-09-16T04:12:50Z")

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I found several people with Bacon numbers of infinity, but they were all in a documentary. Not sure if that counts. On the other hand, if WRS counts, so do these people …

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/70 "2012-09-16T14:13:34Z")

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Moved MPSIMS --\> Cafe Society, a forum that did not exist when this zombie last saw the light of day.

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**Author:** ![epiclab02](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@epiclab02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epiclab02)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/71 "2013-04-24T00:30:43Z")

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I just figured out who WRS is and he has a bacon number of 7!😕

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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/72 "2013-04-24T13:28:10Z")

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For the record, I am listed on the Bacon Hall of Fame from August 1997 for finding someone with a Bacon number of 7. One of my prouder moments.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/73 "2013-04-24T14:06:45Z")

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WTF? Have I missed the point of the game? I thought the object was to connect your target to Kevin Bacon in six moves or FEWER.

I’m a six, btw.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/74 "2013-04-24T14:21:03Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> WTF? Have I missed the point of the game? I thought the object was to connect your target to Kevin Bacon in six moves or FEWER.
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> I’m a six, btw.

Oops.

Make that a four (yes I count TV shows, although I only used one).

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/75 "2013-04-24T14:35:28Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> WTF? Have I missed the point of the game? I thought the object was to connect your target to Kevin Bacon in six moves or FEWER.
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> I’m a six, btw.

You’ve missed the point. The point was that EVERYONE had a Bacon number of 6 or less - and so when people started finding 7s or higher out in the wild, it was a big deal. (At least, it was a big deal back in 2001…)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/76 "2013-04-24T15:08:24Z")

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_Pffft._

_THAT_ game doesn’t interest me in the slightest.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/77 "2013-04-24T16:21:24Z")

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O. K. I give up what did WRS appear in that gives him a Bacon number of 7 (or 10)?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/78 "2013-04-28T03:11:51Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> O. K. I give up what did WRS appear in that gives him a Bacon number of 7 (or 10)?

He has only one credit on IMDb, but when I put in his name just now, I was told he has a Bacon number of infinity, as does William McKinley, who was a “7” back in 2001. Meanwhile, the 2006 flick _Stay Awake_ has reduced Mevlan Shanaj from a 6 to a 3.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/79 "2013-04-28T03:47:44Z")

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Do uncredited extra roles count? If so, I’m a three, thanks to a few days work on a TV movie. Too bad Kevin Bacon wasn’t IN it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/80 "2013-04-28T04:05:58Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> O. K. I give up what did WRS appear in that gives him a Bacon number of 7 (or 10)?

1. William Rufus Shafter and Joseph Wheeler appeared in _Surrender of General Toral_.
2. Joseph Wheeler and Russell A. Alger appeared in _General Wheeler and Secretary of War Alger at Camp Wikoff_.
3. Russell A. Alger and William McKinley appeared in _President McKinley’s Inspection of Camp Wikoff_.
4. William McKinley and Theodore Roosevelt appeared in _President McKinley Inauguration_.
5. Theodore Roosevelt and Walter McGrail appeared in _Womanhood, the Glory of the Nation_.
6. Walter McGrail and Patty McCormack appeared in _Here Comes the Groom_.
7. Patty McCormack and Kevin Bacon appeared in _Frost/Nixon_.

Several of these steps appear to be old newsreels.

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