# I found the only person 10 degrees from Kevin Bacon! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 12, 2001, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506 "2001-06-12T05:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/81 "2013-04-28T04:20:46Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > WTF? Have I missed the point of the game? I thought the object was to connect your target to Kevin Bacon in six moves or FEWER. > > I’m a six, btw. Yes, that’s the point of the game. Supposedly, you can connect absolutely anyone in the movies to Kevin Bacon in six moves or fewer. However, some people have the imp of the perverse, and like to play a metagame where they find people for whom the original game’s premise is false. It’s similar to another phenomenon: people who, instead of actually playing Freecell, spend their time coming up with card permutations where the game is unwinnable. All because Microsoft originally debuted the game as always being winnable. (Not realizing that Microsoft already beat them to it, having given some permutations a negative identification number, which meant they were unwinnable.) Or maybe a more well-known example: people who try to prove that someone does have identical fingerprints or claim to have found two snowflakes that are exactly alike. That’s what always happens when you tell someone something is impossible. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/82 "2013-04-28T05:17:11Z")
It wasn’t easy, but thanks to Crow and Tom Servo, I stumped the computer! Seriously- enter John Reynolds, who payed Torgo in \*\*\*Manos: The Hands of Fate. \*\*\*He does not connect to Kevin Bacon at all. He gets a score of infinity degrees separation. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/83 "2013-04-28T13:36:38Z")
> [@Opus1](#): > > Okay, for all those who desperately seek the answer, I am posting it below in rot13, so those who don’t want to see it don’t have to. Rot13 means that each letter is replaced by the one 13 away in the alphabet: > > a b c d e f g h i j k l m > n o p q r s t u v w x y z > > Basically, just replace every letter in the answer with the one either above or below it in the preceeding chart. > > The person is: > > JVYYVNZ EHSHF FUNSGRE At least of right now that doesn’t work in the Oracle of Bacon (and I know I’m putting it in right because I found him in IMDB.) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/84 "2013-04-28T13:37:27Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > It wasn’t easy, but thanks to Crow and Tom Servo, I stumped the computer! > > Seriously- enter John Reynolds, who payed Torgo in \*\*\*Manos: The Hands of Fate. \*\*\*He does not connect to Kevin Bacon at all. He gets a score of infinity degrees separation. Finding people who come up with a Bacon Number of infinity is not really that tough; you just find semi-amateur movies like that and you can find infinities. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/85 "2013-04-28T14:57:05Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Finding people who come up with a Bacon Number of infinity is not really that tough; you just find semi-amateur movies like that and you can find infinities. True. You can find lots of people who have Bacon numbers of infinity. What’s difficult is finding somebody that has a high but finite Bacon number. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/86 "2013-04-28T17:33:24Z")
dang, if the movie I was a an extra in ever comes out, I will have a Bacon number of 4. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/87 "2013-04-28T22:21:26Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > **Stoid** , you do not have a Bacon number of 2, unless you were an actor in “Made In Heaven.” > > Y’all have missed the concept: These are all people who have appeared in movies with people who have appeared in movies who…with Kevin Bacon. Just knowing people with a connection is not enough. It’s about _actors_. > > And even as I type this I think I’ve realized who is 10. Let me post this, check it, then post again. Well, if you include all kinds of films, I have three credits and a genyoowine Bacon number of 2. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/88 "2013-04-28T22:28:14Z")
Wow, my father’s Bacon number is 2 as well, based on a 1961 episode of “Ben Casey”… ---
**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/89 "2013-04-29T00:52:35Z")
I found an error in their data base, that’s my only claim to doing anything good with this. I tried Paul Mecurio and it came up with a bacon no of infinity. But when I actually looked at his history (cos I didn’t believe it), he should be 3 or less as he was in a movie called Exit to Eden with Dan Aykroyd who has a bacon no of 2. Do I win a prize for that? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/90 "2013-04-29T01:51:25Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Do uncredited extra roles count? If so, I’m a three, thanks to a few days work on a TV movie. Too bad Kevin Bacon wasn’t IN it. 🙂 Ooh, I just realized John Vernon was in that movie. I’ve got a Bacon Number of 2! (Zoidberg) Hooray, now I’m interesting! (/Zoidberg) ---
**Author:** ![Muildir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Muildir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muildir)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/91 "2017-02-19T07:40:33Z")
WRS is now a number 7 so this post is useless ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/92 "2017-02-19T13:51:57Z")
> [@Muildir](#): > > WRS is now a number 7 so this post is useless irony (go see post #61 from 2012) ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/93 "2017-02-19T14:36:53Z")
I figured that I wouldn’t even have a Bacon number but then I remembered that summer when I worked as a stagehand at a local theater company. This guy was in one of the two plays I worked. > **[Max Showalter - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0795289/?ref_=nv_sr_1)** > > Max Showalter. Actor: Sixteen Candles. Born in Kansas, Max Showalter picked up the "acting bug" as a toddler when mother used to take him to the local theater where she played the piano for silent movies. He acted in 92 shows at the Pasadena... And his number is two, so I guess that makes me a 3.! ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/94 "2017-02-19T15:33:44Z")
TV or not/ Newsreels or not? Are there any rules here? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/95 "2017-02-19T20:21:32Z")
I looked up Richard Nixon and he has a 2 Bacon. Can anyone explain how this is possible? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/96 "2017-02-19T20:23:29Z")
I think that if one is going to count experimental reels made by Edison, and the like, then one is really forced to also include TV shows. Though one must then ask whether being in the same series is enough, or if one must be in the same episode (though you can usually connect people in any two episodes of a series with just one additional step through one of the series’ main characters). ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/97 "2017-02-19T23:57:15Z")
I found an infinity… Kirk Douglas (II). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/98 "2017-02-20T02:05:27Z")
So what actors have the highest numbers now? Please just tell us, even if you must put it in spoiler box. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/99 "2017-02-20T03:19:43Z")
> [@Opus1](#): > > For those of you who have never played the Kevin Bacon game, the idea is to link actors to Kevin Bacon through move appearances. For example, Wilt Chamberlain gets a “3” because: > > Wilt Chamberlain was in Conan the Destroyer (1984) with Tracey Walter who was in Fist of the North Star (1995/I) with Clint Howard who was in My Dog Skip (2000) with Kevin Bacon > > Three films=Bacon number of 3. > > Well, as you can see from [this](http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/center-cgi?who=Kevin+Bacon) chart, there is only one person in history who has a Bacon number of 10, and I just found him! > > Just thought I’d brag a little. If anyone wants to play the Kevin Bacon Game, just go here: > [http://www.oracleofbacon.org](http://www.oracleofbacon.org) > > Warning: it’s very addictive, and finding people with Bacon numbers above 3 is damn near impossible. Heh, hell, even I’VE got a Bacon number of 2. / Yeah, I was an extra, but I got screen-time. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506/100 "2017-02-20T04:39:07Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Ooh, I just realized John Vernon was in that movie. I’ve got a Bacon Number of 2! > (Zoidberg) > Hooray, now I’m interesting! > (/Zoidberg) > [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Heh, hell, even I’VE got a Bacon number of 2. > > / Yeah, I was an extra, but I got screen-time. Crap, I got zombiefied. /I can’t help it. Like I said, it’s the only slightly interesting I have going. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-only-person-10-degrees-from-kevin-bacon/68506.md?page=6)