# I fucking HATE YOU, cancer.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 26, 2005, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811 "2005-08-26T23:39:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/41 "2005-09-04T01:48:26Z")

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\*\*Biggirl \*\*I am sorry. Really sorry. The same to you **Red** , if you need anything you know how to reach me, please feel free to do so.

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/42 "2005-09-05T00:52:08Z")

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I had cancer when I was very young, but went into remission. It returned again when I was a little older. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/43 "2005-09-05T01:02:30Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> My dad has lung cancer and was recently hospitalized. But this tonight I just found out the wife of the young couple who own the house my family lives in-- an athlete with a 12 year old, and a 2 year old-- has prostrate cancer and just started chemo.  
> FUCK CANCER!

I thought prognosis and survival rates for prostate cancer was pretty good. So its not all bad, at least its not stage III lung cancer. Do they know what stage it is or the Gleason score or anything like that? Maybe its not so bad and is something like early stage cancer, which has a good survival rate.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/44 "2005-09-05T06:07:20Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> I had cancer when I was very young, but went into remission. It returned again when I was a little older. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Oh, that sucks. ☹ What type of leukemia do you have?

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/45 "2005-09-05T16:56:37Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> It appears I spoke too soon. My doctor revealed to me yesterday after some tests that my leukemia has returned bringing along with it Mr Agressive Pancreatic Cancer. As you can tell, I’m in a great mood right now and totally psyched at being told that I have 12 months to live if my body doesnt respond quickly to the chemo I’ll be starting tomorrow. Just Fucking Dandy.

Oh my God I’m so sorry. ☹☹☹

My mother had uterine cancer and my father went through two bouts of prostate cancer. They’re fine now. My grandfather died of lymphatic cancer so my mother never had the chance to meet him.

Add me to the cancer haters.

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/46 "2005-09-05T23:31:11Z")

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> [@kimera](#):
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> Oh, that sucks. ☹ What type of leukemia do you have?

Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia. They say its they pancreas that doesnt agree with me 😛

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/47 "2005-09-06T04:17:52Z")

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**kimera** is there something you’re trying to say to me here?

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/48 "2005-09-06T04:50:57Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> **kimera** is there something you’re trying to say to me here?

Is there something I should be saying? 😕

I’ve read that l-asparaginase which is used in the treatment of ALL can cause pancreatic cancer, but the details you provided didn’t sound like what I knew of ALL. Then I remembered you were from Australia and I remembered another study I read which suggested a link between Australian Vietnam Vet’s children and AML. I had suspected you had one of those two types but wanted to know if I was right or not.

Have you already gotten your wish from the Make a Wish Foundation?

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/49 "2005-09-06T04:55:06Z")

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Fair enough **kimera**.

No, no wish because my cancer has never been terminal so I havent seen the need. My fathers company did sponsor the Make A Wish Foundation and also gave me a special wish but thats an entirely different story.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/50 "2005-09-06T05:12:50Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> No, no wish because my cancer has never been terminal so I havent seen the need. My fathers company did sponsor the Make A Wish Foundation and also gave me a special wish but thats an entirely different story.

Get one! If not for yourself, then for your family, it can really make a difference. I know my parents ran themselves ragged running to and fro from the hospital and how nice it was for them to relax and get away. I assume that you already have all the contact information for that and for other support groups for children with cancer? If not, I have some information about that too.

I don’t want to hijack this thread anymore, but if you would be willing to participate in a thread in MPSIMS, I’d be interested in learning about the different treatment steps they do overseas. Over here they do some rather interesting ones, like guided imagery instead of anesthesia for spinal taps.

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/51 "2005-09-06T05:23:46Z")

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Did you have cancer or was it a family member? I don’t mind joining in a thread thought I don’t know if I’d have much to offer that others haven’t heard. I didnt think treatment was a great deal different in the US, maybe I was wrong.

I’m fine without the wish, my parents are ok and I paid for them to have a weekend away for their anniversary because they’ve been so stressed. Maybe an idea, but I don’t know if it’s the thing for us.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/52 "2005-09-06T05:44:38Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> I’m fine without the wish, my parents are ok and I paid for them to have a weekend away for their anniversary because they’ve been so stressed. Maybe an idea, but I don’t know if it’s the thing for us.

Holy crap! That’s impressive. I wish I’d had that kind of money when I was a kid! How admirable of you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/53 "2005-09-06T05:47:59Z")

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Took my grandfather in December (leukemia).

Two months ago, I had to tell a 26 year old that there was nothing anybody could offer for him anymore, and we weren’t going to transfuse him with more blood and that he would die before the week was out (choriocarcinoma with mets throughout the GI tract).

Two days later, a good friend, a 30 year old pediatrics second year resident who was devoting his life to providing health care to the most underserved people in the country, was diagnosed with medulloblastoma. He’s now entering his third month in the hospital with severe cerebellar findings (uncoordination, scanning speech, relearning how to write and walk) and facing a year of chemo and radiation.

And then last month, I had to tell a 25 year old that he had a 7 inch mass in his right lung which was a poorly differentiated primary mediastinal mixed germ cell tumor (a variant on a testicular cancer with no primary lesion in the testicle) and that just for good measure we were probably going to have to perform a bilateral radical orchiectomy, and he needed 7 months of very tough, weekly chemo. I also had to explain how when the oncologists said “good prognosis” what they meant was that 50% of people were alive and cancer free at 5 years out.

Tell me about it. Cancer fucking sucks.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/54 "2005-09-06T05:58:26Z")

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> [@edwino](#):
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> I also had to explain how when the oncologists said “good prognosis” what they meant was that 50% of people were alive and cancer free at 5 years out.

It’s crazy how much variation there is with cancer. When I saw my Aunt in July 2002 she looked happy, healthy and as beautiful as always. In less than a year, she was dead, leaving behind 3 small children. She had battled it for 8 years and everything seemed to be going well and then a routine checkup uncovered news no one ever wants to hear.

Leukemia runs in my family and since we’ve spent a lot of time in hospitals, we’ve met a lot of other children with leukemia. My cousin Amanda just lost her friend from the children’s ward last month. Her friend was only diagnosed 2 and 1/2 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/55 "2005-09-06T06:09:56Z")

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I’ve been working instead of going to school so I saved up. Plus they helped me through everything so they deserved something in return.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/56 "2005-09-06T06:18:02Z")

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> [@kimera](#):
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> I wish I’d had that kind of money when I was a kid!

Word. Did you win the lottery or something?

As for the topic of the thread, my friend’s uncle just died from pancreatic cancer in August. No one in my current family (i.e. people I’ve met; I’m not counting distant relatives and ancestors) has ever had cancer, as far as I know, except maybe my step-grandfather, who died when I was about six. I think he had liver cancer, but I’m not really sure.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/57 "2005-09-06T21:43:44Z")

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> [@Atheist Princess](#):
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> I’ve been working instead of going to school so I saved up. Plus they helped me through everything so they deserved something in return.

That’s a wonderful thing for you to do. I wish you and **Biggirl** , and her landlord, and everybody who has cancer the best of luck.  
Fucking cancer. ☹

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-fucking-hate-you-cancer/318811/58 "2005-09-07T07:19:24Z")

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> [@fishbicycle](#):
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> She never got to meet my wife, which is something I’m really sorry about… they would have got on like a house afire.

Strangely, this is my biggest regret. Not that my mother (breast cancer when I was in grad school) didn’t meet my wife–she practically chose my wife for me! But my wife and I have a daughter now, and my mother would have been a sweet and loving grandmother–her granddaughter would have been a real source of joy to her.

**Atheist Princess** –Shit! I remember your I KO’d Kancer thread, and I was very happy for you. This is sad news indeed.

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