# I \*GASP\*! BLASPHEMY!\* didn't like "Lord of the Rings Two Towers" (SPOILERS)

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**Created:** [February 11, 2003, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gasp-blasphemy-didnt-like-lord-of-the-rings-two-towers-spoilers/154251 "2003-02-11T01:20:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gasp-blasphemy-didnt-like-lord-of-the-rings-two-towers-spoilers/154251/61 "2003-02-18T07:16:31Z")

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When did Faramir try to take the ring?

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gasp-blasphemy-didnt-like-lord-of-the-rings-two-towers-spoilers/154251/62 "2003-02-18T12:00:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by look!ninjas \*  
> \<hijack\>Someone mentioned in this thread that Gandalf is a Maia. I’ve read LOTR, THE HOBBIT, and THE SILMARILLION, and the most they ever tell you about the wizards in those books is that they’re called the Istari and that they were probably sent by the Vanyar. Where did you find out that they were Maia?\</hijack\>]

Try the Book of Lost Tales…  
or the Answer and Questions section [www.theonering.net](http://www.theonering.net)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gasp-blasphemy-didnt-like-lord-of-the-rings-two-towers-spoilers/154251/63 "2003-02-18T14:17:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by look!ninjas \*  
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> \<hijack\>Someone mentioned in this thread that Gandalf is a Maia. I’ve read LOTR, THE HOBBIT, and THE SILMARILLION, and the most they ever tell you about the wizards in those books is that they’re called the Istari and that they were probably sent by the Vanyar. Where did you find out that they were Maia?\</hijack\> \*\*

NB: the plural is “Maiar”. Also “Valar” for “Vanyar”. Anyway, Gandalf (reported by Faramir) stated “Olorin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten”, and the Silmarillion (the _Valaquenta_, IIRC) mentions Olorin by name as a Maia. That’s not direct proof, but strongly suggestive evidence given that the Istari came out of the West, and had indefinite lifespans.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gasp-blasphemy-didnt-like-lord-of-the-rings-two-towers-spoilers/154251/64 "2003-02-18T15:15:02Z")

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I liked the books a lot when I was a kid, but not the movies so much.

I particularly hate how they turned Gimli -who was always a bad ass- into R2D2.

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