# I, genius, have had an epiphany.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 4, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341 "2008-01-04T23:16:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/21 "2008-01-05T00:36:09Z")

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Amateurs, all of you. The solution is that the glass is 50% occupied by a liquid. Now then, the Middle East thingy. It’s about the Isrealites vs. the Babylonians, right? Lessee…

Oh yeah, **Mangeorge** , you’re two days early on the whole Epiphany thing, too.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/22 "2008-01-05T00:38:11Z")

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[QUOTE=nocturnal\_tick]  
And can you see the problem with that?  
[/QUOTE]

When it came up on QI, the consensus was that it would just rearrange the violence into _love Marmite_ and _hate it_ factions instead of those currently existing.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/23 "2008-01-05T01:00:26Z")

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[QUOTE=nocturnal\_tick]  
Marmite. I can’t remember where this came from originally by it was part of a think tank to solve the Arab/Israeli dispute. Apparently a lack of zinc produces aggressive behaviour and since marmite is packed full of the stuff it would stop the conflict altogether. Genius.  
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Sounds good to me. Last idea I heard was to squirt them all with lard.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/24 "2008-01-05T01:05:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Vlad/Igor]  
Amateurs, all of you. The solution is that the glass is 50% occupied by a liquid. Now then, the Middle East thingy. It’s about the Isrealites vs. the Babylonians, right? Lessee…

Oh yeah, **Mangeorge** , you’re two days early on the whole Epiphany thing, too.  
[/QUOTE]

I spoke of _little_ “e” epiphany. Those can be spontaneous, you see.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/25 "2008-01-05T01:12:54Z")

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[QUOTE=mangeorge]  
I spoke of _little_ “e” epiphany. Those can be spontaneous, you see.  
[/QUOTE]

Yes, but if they’re premature, perhaps you should get that checked out.

I mean, um, don’t worry about it, it happens to every man sometimes. Really.

😃

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/26 "2008-01-05T01:34:26Z")

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Actually, no part of the glass is empty, assuming the observation takes place in an atmosphere.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/27 "2008-01-05T01:40:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
Actually, no part of the glass is empty, assuming the observation takes place in an atmosphere.  
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Actually, I once skimmed a paper about whether an empty vessel is actually empty. The author said no, but it’s okay to consider it so.  
I wonder what Cecil thinks.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/28 "2008-01-05T13:10:13Z")

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Optimist: “the glass is half-full.”

Pessimist: “the glass is half-empty.”

Papa Bear: “Someone’s been drinking out of my glass!”

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/29 "2008-01-05T14:59:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Vlad/Igor]  
Amateurs, all of you. The solution is that the glass is 50% occupied by a liquid.  
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Or perhaps 50% unoccupied. You do see the dilemma, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/30 "2008-01-05T15:13:56Z")

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We can’t be sure if the glass is half-empty or half-full until we determine whether the cat is dead. That’s Heisenberg. I think it is, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/31 "2008-01-05T18:15:11Z")

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Just like mine, it appears Schrödinger’s Cat drank out of his glass.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/32 "2008-01-05T19:27:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Scientist : After being heated to 10,000 degrees Kelvin and the resulting plasma spectroscopically analyzed, it appears that the glass was composed of elements in these concentrations . . .  
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[really geeky nitpick]  
It’s 10,000 Kelvins, not 10,000 degrees Kelvin. Kelvin is not the scale, but the unit itself.  
[/RGN]

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/33 "2008-01-05T21:59:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
[really geeky nitpick]  
It’s 10,000 Kelvins, not 10,000 degrees Kelvin. Kelvin is not the scale, but the unit itself.  
[/RGN]  
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That just extends the joke :

Scientist 1 : “After being heated to 10,000 degrees Kelvin and the resulting plasma spectroscopically analyzed, it appears that the glass was composed of elements in these concentrations . . .”

Scientist 2 : " It’s ‘10,000 Kelvins’, not ‘10,000 degrees Kelvin’ ! "

Scientist 1 : “I’m the one that got the half million dollar grant to study half full glasses; I’ll call it what I damned well please.”

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/34 "2008-01-05T23:37:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Chefguy]  
Or perhaps 50% unoccupied. You do see the dilemma, don’t you?  
[/QUOTE]

But…but…I…you… aaaaaaAAAAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!

Great. Now I’m going to be up all night trying to come up with a work-around.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/35 "2008-01-05T23:43:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
That just extends the joke :

Scientist 1 : “After being heated to 10,000 degrees Kelvin and the resulting plasma spectroscopically analyzed, it appears that the glass was composed of elements in these concentrations . . .”

Scientist 2 : " It’s ‘10,000 Kelvins’, not ‘10,000 degrees Kelvin’ ! "

Scientist 1 : “I’m the one that got the half million dollar grant to study half full glasses; I’ll call it what I damned well please.”  
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Ah, but do you \*have \*a half million dollar grant, or are you \*lacking \*a full million dollar grant? 😃

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/36 "2008-01-06T01:17:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Nametag]  
Optimist: “the glass is half-full.”

Pessimist: “the glass is half-empty.”

Papa Bear: “Someone’s been drinking out of my glass!”  
[/QUOTE]

Freud: It’s your mother’s fault.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/37 "2008-01-06T01:28:14Z")

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Which half?

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**Author:** ![Glazer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a88e57/32.png) [@Glazer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glazer)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/38 "2008-01-06T01:47:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Ah, but do you have a half million dollar grant, or are you lacking a full million dollar grant?

Lacking the full million of course. Gee don’t you know anything about goverment grants?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/39 "2008-01-06T02:06:40Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Ah, but do you \*have \*a half million dollar grant, or are you \*lacking \*a full million dollar grant? 😃  
[/QUOTE]  
I don’t know. I’ll need a grant to fund a study . . .

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-genius-have-had-an-epiphany/432341/40 "2008-01-06T02:07:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
… Cynic : Half empty, half full, it’s still bought with the blood of the innocent. …  
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cite?

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