# I get it, you don't like Fox News!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292 "2005-03-26T01:12:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Carnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carnick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnick)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/41 "2005-03-27T02:31:01Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> First of all, prior to this thread, I don’t know I’ve ever posted about the veracity of Fox News. Second of all, my point to the OP, and to you, is the same regardless of whether you are against Fox News or only against people complaining about Fox News. We’ll keep bitching about them as long as they lie. If you don’t like it, don’t log in.

If you don’t like it, don’t watch.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/42 "2005-03-27T02:37:20Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> Are you actually bothering to read my posts, or are you just seeing the words “Fox News” and shrieking without putting in an ounce of cognitive thought? Why does that sound familiar?
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> I’ll say it again. I am NOT defending Fox News. The point of my OP is how I’m sick of the chuckleheads who throw in their one-lined, non-substanced, snarky remarks with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. Kinda like you.

You are displaying an extreme level of dumbshittery here. I don’t care if you’re defending Fox, or not defending Fox. You used them as a source. It is perfectly valid for other posters to attack the validity of that source, one-lined or not. If you can’t understand that, it’s not me that’s not doing the thinking around here.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/43 "2005-03-27T02:44:20Z")

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> [@Muad'Dib](#):
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> Could you please provide some of that documentation?

Just to cite an example from the last couple of days, Fox has repeatedly reported that a certain doctor in the Schiavo story is a “Nobel Prize nominee.” In fact he is _not_ a Nobel nominee and as far as I know, Fox has still never corrected that.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/44 "2005-03-27T02:46:39Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> If you don’t like it, don’t watch.

I don’t watch Fox News. I don’t get any of my news from television. I think the whole slate are high on emotional imagery and low on facts.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/45 "2005-03-27T02:47:40Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> If you don’t like it, don’t watch.

The problem is that lots of other people watch it and believe it and fuck up the country by voting for chimpanzees who lie us into wars or by storming a hospice and trying to deprive people of their right to die in peace.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/46 "2005-03-27T02:49:12Z")

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By the way, **carnick** I have to question the wisdom of opening a pit thread specifically so people can talk about something you’re sick of hearing about.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/47 "2005-03-27T03:48:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Just to cite an example from the last couple of days, Fox has repeatedly reported that a certain doctor in the Schiavo story is a “Nobel Prize nominee.” In fact he is _not_ a Nobel nominee and as far as I know, Fox has still never corrected that.

You claiming something is _not_ a cite.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/48 "2005-03-27T03:55:01Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> You claiming something is _not_ a cite.

Perhaps [this](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151148,00.html) will suit you?

> [@](#):
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> HANNITY: You were nominated for a Nobel Prize (search) in medicine?
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> HAMMESFAHR: Yes.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/49 "2005-03-27T03:59:33Z")

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And I’d like to add:

> [@](#):
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> HANNITY: Doctor, wait a minute. I’ve got to get this straight here.
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> You were nominated to get a **Nobel Peace Prize** in this very work. Are you saying that this woman could be rehabilitated?
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> HAMMESFAHR: Absolutely.
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> HANNITY: Could she talk one day?
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> HAMMESFAHR: Yes.
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> HANNITY: Then how is it possible we’re in this position if you have examined her, you were up for a Nobel Prize. I – this is mind boggling to me.
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> HAMMESFAHR: I don’t understand it myself.

My bolding, of course.

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**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/50 "2005-03-27T04:05:31Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Perhaps [this](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151148,00.html) will suit you?

That link is hilarious and sad at the same time. What’s really disgusting is how Hannity repeats the “Nobel Prize” bit ad nauseum. Fucking liar.

As to the OP, I’m for the snarks. Fox News is so unreliable that citing them should be treated on par with citing Sylvia Brown. I hope snide posts and ridicule accompany every Fox cite on this board.

Screw the Fox-posters. Let penis ensue!

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**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/51 "2005-03-27T04:05:46Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> By the way, **carnick** I have to question the wisdom of opening a pit thread specifically so people can talk about something you’re sick of hearing about.

Did the BBQ Pit suddenly change format and become a forum for people to open threads about stuff they enjoy? Why wasn’t I told? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/52 "2005-03-27T04:35:34Z")

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I’m getting sick of seeing Pit threads complaining about other Pit threads. I just may open a Pit thread about it.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/53 "2005-03-27T04:44:02Z")

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> [@anamnesis](#):
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> Did the BBQ Pit suddenly change format and become a forum for people to open threads about stuff they enjoy? Why wasn’t I told? :rolleyes:

How many of those threats say, “I don’t want people to complain about \_\_\_\_\_”?

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/54 "2005-03-27T04:48:10Z")

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Threads. Not threats. Threads.

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**Author:** ![Carnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carnick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnick)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/55 "2005-03-27T05:25:22Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> How many of those threats say, “I don’t want people to complain about \_\_\_\_\_”?

Your squirming is pathetic.

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**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/56 "2005-03-27T05:37:43Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> How many of those threats say, “I don’t want people to complain about \_\_\_\_\_”?

He didn’t tell you what to complain about. He’s saying that the Fox News sniping is repetitive, tiresome, usually unnecessary to an informed individual, and as such is patronizing if it is made to an informed individual. The majority of the people on this board are pretty well-informed. It’s a shame that you have to dilute the level of intelligence with the kind of petty sniping that Carnick refers to in the OP. You’ve all done a fine job of splitting hairs and veering of the subject to address the issue of some doctor that wasn’t nominated for a Nobel Prize even though Sean Hannity said he was. Yes, you’re arguing about something Sean Hannity said to be true. Once again, who is the bigger fool? :rolleyes:

And Diogenes, your attempt to associate fringe activists who are storming the hospice where Schiavo is with being victims of Fox News brainwashing is one such example of a petty snipe. Actually, wait, you’re right Diogenes … it’s all Fox’s fault! First they won the presidency for Bush and now they’re motivating activists to go save Schiavo. It’s makes it so much easier to snipe when you label them using the political media as a backdrop. If you really believe that any one media network, even Fox, is solely responsible for dictating the actions of extreme activists at a hospice, you need to go outside and take a look around, take a deep breath and come back to reality.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/57 "2005-03-27T05:51:34Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> Your squirming is pathetic.

Not as pathetic as your trolling, asshole.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/58 "2005-03-27T05:54:26Z")

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> [@anamnesis](#):
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> Once again, who is the bigger fool? :rolleyes:

So far I’d say it’s a tie between you and **carnick**. Maybe you can do a rock-paper-scissors to see who wins.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/59 "2005-03-27T06:07:09Z")

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> [@anamnesis](#):
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> He’s saying that the Fox News sniping is repetitive, tiresome, usually unnecessary to an informed individual, and as such is patronizing if it is made to an informed individual.

This is the problem, I think. If someone has already been made aware that source X has, shall we say, “reliability concerns” that can be backed up with several examples, and yet they continue to use cites from source X, that person is acting out of willful ignorance and so should be called on it. Either that, or they haven’t gotten the message yet, in which case they’ll need reminding anyway. Silence is tacit acceptance in these cases.

This is of course ignoring the issue of whether someone thinks source X is a valid source or not in the first place, since that’s not what the OP was about.

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**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-it-you-dont-like-fox-news/296292/60 "2005-03-27T06:07:35Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> So far I’d say it’s a tie between you and **carnick**. Maybe you can do a rock-paper-scissors to see who wins.

I’ve got rock, how about you, Carnick?

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