# I get that I don't get why you don't go with the internet.

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**Created:** [January 26, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688 "2012-01-26T06:27:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/1 "2012-01-26T06:27:54Z")

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So I’m old enough to be your father and I REALLY don’t understand why you don’t get the internet, much less why you don’t let the rest of your salesforce, who do, use it to make us all rich. We are recent hires. We came from the Outside World. It is not 1991 for us. CRM can be our friend. Shit, EMAIL and CUT AND PASTE can be our friends. Spend a couple grand and let us make all of us real money.

Today I explained to a potential customer up in the Sierra Nevadas, a woman without email or internet, that, while I could understand why she and her customers might want to get away from it all, but this was the first time since before most people were born that I didn’t work with a computer screen in front of me and we were too new to have one in print. And a new one would be instantly obsolescent, so she should check the site. Which she couldn’t, but I could get why she was so backwoods. Not so much in a suburban person half my age.

There is a point where your satisfaction with the status quo makes you happy, but I will keep on calling because I need to make money.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/2 "2012-01-26T06:33:12Z")

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I understand approximately 72.437% of this.

Have you been at happy hour?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/3 "2012-01-26T06:36:18Z")

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No, I’ve spent several days banging my head against 1991. The effects can be telling.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/4 "2012-01-26T06:45:23Z")

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ETA: It’s enough to allow me to understand the caller, Ms Koscinski, and my boss, but not when it gets in the way of me making a living. She I can hang up on, but she doesn’t even have a fax.

BANG-BANG-BANG!

What is this, 1988?

Boss finally figured out that, if he let us have a few printouts of his emails to fax, we’d save him some work.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/5 "2012-01-26T06:48:27Z")

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It’s the middle paragraph that does the damage to my comprehension.

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> Today I explained to a potential customer up in the Sierra Nevadas, a woman without email or internet, that, while I could understand why she and her customers might want to get away from it all,

So far so good.

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> but this was the first time since before most people were born that I didn’t work with a computer screen in front of me

You’re working without a computer screen in front of you? And you’re telling this to a prospect?

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> and we were too new to have one in print.

Have a computer in print? What? What does this have to do with newness?

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> And a new one would be instantly obsolescent,

A new what? Why would it be instantly obsolescent (presume you mean ‘obsolete’?) Why are you selling instantly obsolete products?

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> so she should check the site.

What site? Check for what? Your company site?

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> Which she couldn’t, but I could get why she was so backwoods.

I kinda get this, she couldn’t look at some website or other because she doesn’t have a computer.

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> Not so much in a suburban person half my age.

Not so much what?

So here’s my guess: you are in sales, talking to your boss who won’t let you have a computer, and comparing him/her to someone without a computer in the Sierra Nevadas. The rest, I’m a completely 😕 about.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/6 "2012-01-26T07:16:18Z")

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Not piling on, but really confused too. It does make me curious though…

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/7 "2012-01-26T07:24:29Z")

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I’m picking up something here…

It sounds like your job…doesn’t have an app for it…so you have to know stuff and do things besides clicking…but if your boss gave you a computer…you could spend all day surfing the net instead.

Is that it? It’s kind of hard to piece together from the OP.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/8 "2012-01-26T07:41:24Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> So here’s my guess: you are in sales, talking to your boss who won’t let you have a computer, and comparing him/her to someone without a computer in the Sierra Nevadas. The rest, I’m a completely 😕 about.

No, he is in sales, but his boss lives in the Sierra Nevada’s where they don’t print stuff, and the customer can’t see the computer screen because of the “backwood” (which I suspect is a type of virus, but I’m not sure…)

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/9 "2012-01-26T07:46:08Z")

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Anyway, despite the lack of sense in the OP, I do at least get that **dropzone** gets that **dropzone** doesn’t get why someone or other doesn’t go with the internet. That much is clear.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/10 "2012-01-26T08:01:47Z")

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Is it though?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/11 "2012-01-26T08:09:50Z")

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Perhaps we aren’t talking to present day **dropzone**. He’s been banging his head against 1991, so we could be hearing from the 1990 or 1992 **dropzone** , or maybe even the 2033 **dropzone** who can travel through time. Maybe in 2033 they can print computers and he’s complaining about his boss not getting a decent printer. His OP might make perfect sense in the vernacular of the future.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/12 "2012-01-26T09:32:14Z")

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Some people think the Internet makes you dumber. Considering the OP is clearly in a state of Internet deprivation (that’s about all we can gather with any degree of certainty), this thread serves as resounding evidence that the opposite is true.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/13 "2012-01-26T10:26:19Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Anyway, despite the lack of sense in the OP, I do at least get that **dropzone** gets that **dropzone** doesn’t get why someone or other doesn’t go with the internet. That much is clear.

Businesspeople are often too busy doing Real Work to communicate clearly to someone who’s out of the loop.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/14 "2012-01-26T11:22:08Z")

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I get that I don’t get why you don’t get why someone won’t get with the internet.

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**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/15 "2012-01-26T12:18:25Z")

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I think he’s saying he’s calling on a commercial customer whose business doesn’t have internet. He can’t send a physical catalog because his company only has an online catalog. He’s printing off pages of his online catalog and faxing it to his customer.

ETA: On review, I’m not so fucking sure. There’s a lot of sheer incoherent babble in there.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/16 "2012-01-26T12:43:02Z")

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> [@Batfish](#):
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> I think he’s saying he’s calling on a commercial customer whose business doesn’t have internet. He can’t send a physical catalog because his company only has an online catalog. He’s printing off pages of his online catalog and faxing it to his customer.

There’s definitely a comparison of someone in the mountains to someone suburban though.

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> ETA: On review, I’m not so fucking sure. There’s a lot of sheer incoherent babble in there.

“I’m playing all the right notes - but not necessarily in the right order.”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/17 "2012-01-26T13:01:54Z")

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Ah, it’s an early 1990s internet ray!

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/18 "2012-01-26T13:06:28Z")

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Is it me or does this sound like one of those spam e-mails from China?

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> Dear friend,  
> We knowing your company good and prosperous. Why you don’t let the rest of your salesforce, who do, use it to make us all rich. We are recent hires. We came from the Outside World. It is not 1991 for us. CRM can be our friend. EMAIL and CUT AND PASTE can be our friends. Spend a couple grand and let us make all of us real money.
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> There is a point where your satisfaction with the status quo makes you happy, but I will keep on calling because I need to make money.
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> Many thanks to you,
> 
> Benjamin

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/19 "2012-01-26T13:23:14Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Perhaps we aren’t talking to present day **dropzone**. He’s been banging his head against 1991, so we could be hearing from the 1990 or 1992 **dropzone** , or maybe even the 2033 **dropzone** who can travel through time. Maybe in 2033 they can print computers and he’s complaining about his boss not getting a decent printer. His OP might make perfect sense in the vernacular of the future.

Or 2033 **dropzone** ’s time machine cannot travel back to 1991, so he cannot sell a computer (a 386sx no less) to a customer in the Sierra Nevada, instead he had to skip back to 1988, and sell her a fax machine.

In that case, I’d advise him to go for the upsell. Sell her the plain paper fax.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/20 "2012-01-26T15:03:34Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> ?Have a computer in print? What? What does this have to do with newness?

I tried printing my computer once. It was both difficult _and_ impossible.

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