# I get that I don't get why you don't go with the internet. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688 "2012-01-26T06:27:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/181 "2012-01-31T04:40:25Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Oh, for God’s sake! I have been defending that post LONGER THAN I WORKED AT THE JOB! Let it go. So you admit it? The post was due to your job and the other guy? Very serious, if true; you should get the guy (not that one, the other one) to look into it and see if you’re exposed here. The ramifications could have consequences, and it will never be the same. Your covenant is… look, it’s been signed, alright? All the parties. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/182 "2012-01-31T05:04:40Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > So you admit it? The post was due to your job and the other guy? Very serious, if true; you should get the guy (not that one, the other one) to look into it and see if you’re exposed here. The ramifications could have consequences, and it will never be the same. Your covenant is… look, it’s been signed, alright? All the parties. Yes. That almost made sense, by my limited standards. Meaning it didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/183 "2012-02-02T22:46:44Z")
“We’re looking for someone with a Rolodex.” Christ, I’ve been working in that industry (not teddy bears) for twelve years, but as a designer, not a salesman. And I’m ready to make that step. And I’ve done sales, though not always successfully (see: teddy bears). But a Rolodex? Did you even read my resume? I’ve worked on jobs so fucking high end that I worked with estate managers, not GCs (General Contractors). GCs are easily dismissed. Rolodexes are for people who work with GCs. And yeah, I’m getting all sorts of egotistical here, but I haven’t had much opportunity for it lately and it feels good. And 'twas a time I made four times as much as at the teddy bear place, so nostalgia can also feel good. Though those happy times are gone. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/184 "2012-02-03T07:42:51Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > {snip} I am an enabler. Given the level of incoherence of some of your posts, I’d say you’re being more of an unenabler. ---
**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/185 "2012-02-03T07:46:49Z")
I can’t believe this thread is still going… I guess I didn’t help the matter by posting this observation though. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/186 "2012-02-03T13:42:00Z")
> [@brittekland](#): > > I can’t believe this thread is still going… I guess I didn’t help the matter by posting this observation though. Oh well. I can’t believe that chucklehead is an engineer. Must be one of those mail order diplomas. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/187 "2012-02-03T17:06:58Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > So you admit it? The post was due to your job and the other guy? Very serious, if true; you should get the guy (not that one, the other one) to look into it and see if you’re exposed here. The ramifications could have consequences, and it will never be the same. Your covenant is… look, it’s been signed, alright? All the parties. Yes. > [@dropzone](#): > > That almost made sense, by my limited standards. Meaning it didn’t. “_whoosh_” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/188 "2012-02-03T21:45:57Z")
That happens to me sometimes. Often, actually, but I try not to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/189 "2012-02-04T02:53:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > That happens to me sometimes. Often, actually, but I try not to admit it. We’re all talking trash about you and you’ve been a really good sport. You’re earning merits for good character. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DHMO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecc23a/32.png) [@DHMO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DHMO)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/190 "2012-02-04T12:25:09Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by **dropzone** > > Fuck, I’m an engineer. > > We can tell. You write like one. > > > [@](#): > > > > For that, I’m coherent. > > This whole thread calls that assertion into question. For that, your post #59 was reasonably intelligible. So you are capable of written English if you put your mind to it. > > Serious question: Is there something in the thought processes and communication habits of engineers that leaves them so inept at written English? I wonder if the many lacunæ and non sequiturs that **jjimm** noted in **dropzone** ’s text, leaping over large gaps in meaning and with barely a shred of context, may be patterned by a familiarity with machine operations, in which so much that is routine mechanics is automated and can be taken for granted, while the engineer’s attention is focused on specific details at any given time. There must be something about the cognitive mode needed to work with machines that habitually leaves background operations/context unexpressed while highlighting certain salient features. Is my guess. > > My one Unix techie friend drives me crazy when she explains computer stuff to me, because she rattles off all kinds of techie jargon I’ve never heard of, and I always have to make her back up and explain in laywoman’s language each concept she is referring to. She never remembers that I don’t have her knowledge of the subject. Apparently once I’d won a way into her confidence by showing familiarity with _some_ computer stuff, she slipped into the elliptical mode of tech talk in which so much is taken for granted. Back in the day, as an undergrad in Civil Engineering, I made quite a comfortable side income writing and proofreading term papers and theses for the techie types on campus. The University of South Florida had a large Engineering department, as well as many other technical majors, so I had quite a clientele. Tech-types can’t write for shit, and English majors don’t know squat about technology, so, since I kind of straddled the disciplines, I filled a niche that was wide open. I also got the USF Oracle (the school newspaper) to give me press credentials so I could write about the science and technology stories they wanted to cover. I got so frustrated at the Journalism and Mass Comm people totally screwing up every article that involved any kind of science. I believe you are right about the thought processes of engineering types that they have trouble with written communications. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/191 "2012-02-04T15:29:10Z")
> [@DHMO](#): > > …I believe you are right about the thought processes of engineering types that they have trouble with written communications. But YOU put together an understandable post. And, _ **dropzone** _ has, too. In fact, if we threw in a comment about how much we love the DH rule, he’d come back with three well-thought-out paragraphs. He just really didn’t care about us when he’s posting to this thread. And that’s what it comes down to. If you give a shit about people, you’ll look at things from their perspective. And think “Okay, have I given them enough info here to let them know what’s going on?” And if you don’t care that much, then don’t click “submit”… _[digs does this… decides he should explain that a DH is not a Douche Hat rule, but Designated Hitter] [then gets distracted by whether there should be a Douche Hat rule in MLB, or in public schools…] [see, digs can be ADHD too] [and talk in the third person] [which is also annoying]_ BTW, Twickster [just closed a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640647) after 3 posts in MPSIMS, saying > [@](#): > > “Inigo, honey, we need some content, not just random firings of your neurons.” ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/192 "2012-02-04T19:39:22Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > “We’re looking for someone with a Rolodex.” > > Christ, I’ve been working in that industry (not teddy bears) for twelve years, but as a designer, not a salesman. And I’m ready to make that step. And I’ve done sales, though not always successfully (see: teddy bears). But a Rolodex? Did you even read my resume? I’ve worked on jobs so fucking high end that I worked with estate managers, not GCs (General Contractors). GCs are easily dismissed. Rolodexes are for people who work with GCs. > > And yeah, I’m getting all sorts of egotistical here, but I haven’t had much opportunity for it lately and it feels good. And 'twas a time I made four times as much as at the teddy bear place, so nostalgia can also feel good. Though those happy times are gone. Given your obvious lack of intellect and communication ability I suggest you get used to having shitty low paying jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/193 "2012-02-05T16:31:16Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Given your obvious lack of intellect and communication ability I suggest you get used to having shitty low paying jobs. These days, a\* lot\* of good intellects and able communicators have shitty, low-paying jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/194 "2012-02-05T22:23:55Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > I can’t believe that chucklehead is an engineer. Must be one of those mail order diplomas. He probably is. Sorta like the one who designed the equipment at my last company. The one where I told everybody if I ever go postal, I’m going to shoot the equipment, so the rest of the employees would get good new stuff after I’m hauled away. Of course, I was working as a civil engineering technician, too, so most of the buildings I worked on were also designed by engineers like him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688.md?page=9)