# I get that I don't get why you don't go with the internet.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688 "2012-01-26T06:27:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/101 "2012-01-27T21:47:14Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> no, i’ve spent several days banging my head against 1991. The effects can be telling.

> [@darth panda](#):
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> you left out “a wall since”

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/102 "2012-01-27T21:57:00Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Wait, what have teddy bears got to do with this? This has gotten me so lost.

> [@dropzone](#):
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> ETA too late: Before I started Wife warned me not to surf the net while at work and to not delete my browser history because they’d think I was going to porn sites. Instead, I was trying to sell to pornographers. Surprisingly, they were not interested in carrying a line of **teddy bears** that weren’t, er, adaptable.

(My bold)

Well, if you get confused by “Teddy Bears” maybe your your comprehension problem isn’t on the engineer’s side of the conversation.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/103 "2012-01-27T22:02:54Z")

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In the quoted passage I cannot tell what “pornographers,” “teddy bears,” and “adaptable” have to do with each other.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/104 "2012-01-27T22:52:11Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> In the quoted passage I cannot tell what “pornographers,” “teddy bears,” and “adaptable” have to do with each other.

I think he means that their leads list sucks, lots of “toy shops” were listed that are actually aimed at very “adult entertainment,” and their teddy bears do not include strap-ons.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/105 "2012-01-27T23:04:53Z")

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Yeesh. It would be easier trying to translate Linear A inscriptions.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/106 "2012-01-27T23:17:55Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> 1. What does escalation have to do with acing the evaluation - and why shouldn’t you do it? 2. Your added information says “he doesn’t want to see it”. Who is “he” and what is “it”?

“Escalating” means to take it to the next level, like you ride the escalator to get from floor to floor at the mall. If you, an aggrieved customer, ask to talk to my manager (“he”) that is a potential escalation. My manager does not want to talk to you, so I do everything I can to prevent that from happening.

**Johanna** , I’ll try to make it easier. When a man and his teddy bear love each other VERY much… 😉

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/107 "2012-01-27T23:49:07Z")

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I understand almost nothing about the complaints the OP’s making. I also don’t understand his profession. Are you an engineer, or do you work in a call center? Or do you sell toys? I’m baffled.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/108 "2012-01-27T23:53:58Z")

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All of the above. Well, not the part about selling toys anymore. But it’s a crappy economy, my unemployment ran out before I found another engineering job, and I took the first job that was offered. I’ve worked inside sales before. These days we all need to be flexible.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/109 "2012-01-28T00:53:26Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> “Escalating” means to take it to the next level, like you ride the escalator to get from floor to floor at the mall. If you, an aggrieved customer, ask to talk to my manager (“he”) that is a potential escalation. My manager does not want to talk to you, so I do everything I can to prevent that from happening.

Yes, I got that, but what does that have to do with the previous sentence? And why did you write “hint”? Is this in the context of a job interview? Is this something you said in a job interview and it wasn’t well received? Or did you try to escalate the outcome of your interviews?

Your mention of escalation has absolutely no context and comes out of nowhere in the post where you used it. Do you get the problems I (and others) am having with understanding what you’ve written?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/110 "2012-01-28T01:38:38Z")

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(sigh) I took an online evaluation that simulated customer service calls, down to having simulated phone calls. At every turn there was an option to escalate, which I did not take because it would mean I flunked the test. My hint was to anybody who ever had to take a similar test to not take the easy route and click the “escalate” button.

You don’t need to understand this. Just put the factoid to NEVER click the “escalate” button or say, “Boss, this guy wants to talk to my supervisor,” in your head in case you ever need it.

Christ, what do you people DO for a living? Have all of you only had one kind of job? Where’s the fun in that? 😕

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/111 "2012-01-28T01:52:10Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> 😃
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But, but…GAAAAAAAAAAH!

_bookmarks_  
😉

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/112 "2012-01-28T02:00:42Z")

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Here’s the thing. Your writing has a pretty strong “You Had To Be There” component.

This is not a term you will find in business writing manuals. What I mean is that you seem to throw in whatever information occurs to you, in the order it occurs to you. What you don’t seem to be doing is sorting out what the info relates to, or indeed whether it’s really all that important to the point you’re making.

It all makes sense to you, of course. What you can’t get your head around is that it might not make sense to anybody with half a brain.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/113 "2012-01-28T02:04:57Z")

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You appear to either have an attention-deficit problem that might benefit from prescription medication, or an acute iatrogenic condition caused by prescribed attention-defect medication. You might want to not talk to your doctor, just to be safe.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/114 "2012-01-28T02:17:47Z")

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You guys may not believe it, but I write _exquisite_ step-by-step instructions, going back to make sure every step is included so that a literate chimp could follow them and do it right. This is, actually, because I suspect I’m ADD and appreciate a list of steps to follow, even if it gets all wobbly in my head. (Remember: It’s 1, 2, 3, 4…)

I just didn’t know I needed to do that in The Pit, where I was venting.

As for those who say I write like an engineer, at least I can spell. 😃

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/115 "2012-01-28T02:17:53Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> You don’t need to understand this.

But the people reading it don’t know that it’s meant to be ignored. In the absence of foreknowledge of what you’re talking about, we, your readers, and liable to treat everything you’ve written with equal importance - even if it is in parentheses. Because we don’t know the context, and it doesn’t make sense without it, you’re going to get questioned on it.

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> Christ, what do you people DO for a living? Have all of you only had one kind of job? Where’s the fun in that? 😕

Because I’ve been treating your writing as an interesting cryptographic puzzle, I get from this that you’re referencing someone’s post above who can’t work out your job from what you’ve written, but again you introduce the above quoted statement without context. The way you’ve written it makes it look like it is meant to be related to the previous paragraph, and thus it comes over as another bizarre non-sequitur.

For pretty much all of the confusing things you’ve written in this thread, all you ever needed to do is establish context and then you’d make sense. E.g. if you were to add “To all of you who can’t work out what my job is: Christ, what do you people DO…” etc. - it would be perfectly comprehensible.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/116 "2012-01-28T02:23:45Z")

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It is also because I am diagnosed as mild OCD and this followed by this and then this is in my nature.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/117 "2012-01-28T02:27:25Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> we, your readers, and liable to treat everything you’ve written with equal importance

Thanks a lot, **Gaudere**.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/118 "2012-01-28T02:29:38Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> You guys may not believe it, but I write _exquisite_ step-by-step instructions, going back to make sure every step is included so that a literate chimp could follow them and do it right.

Are you concerned that the chimp might nod off or start pitching poo if you include too many pauses? You know - paragraph breaks, numbered lists, bullet points?

If these were instructions - say for making a cake - they would read like this:

"1. Get a bowl, some measuring spoons, cake mix, a big wooden spoon, two eggs, an oven heated to 375°, and a measuring cup with 1 cup of milk in it. Measure everything just right. Put it in the oven for 45 minutes. Take the cake pan out and stick a toothpick in it to see if it’s done.

“2. Put frosting on at some point in the future.”

> [@](#):
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> This is, actually, because I suspect I’m ADD and appreciate a list of steps to follow, even if it gets all wobbly in my head.

I’m ADD myself, and I can’t quite follow your chains of events. You may, heaven forbid!, be overcompensating.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/119 "2012-01-28T02:30:17Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> For pretty much all of the confusing things you’ve written in this thread, all you ever needed to do is establish context and then you’d make sense. E.g. if you were to add “To all of you who can’t work out what my job is: Christ, what do you people DO…” etc. - it would be perfectly comprehensible.

Bro, we have been internet buddies for ages and I don’t wish that my rambling, non sequitors, and general incoherence come between us, but what the fuck do I care about context? Context is for MPSIMS. This is The Pit and I was ranting because I had just lost a crappy job that appears to have left me with a numb left hand..

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-get-that-i-dont-get-why-you-dont-go-with-the-internet/610688/120 "2012-01-28T02:33:53Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Bro, we have been internet buddies for ages and I don’t wish that my rambling, non sequitors, and general incoherence come between us, but what the fuck do I care about context? Context is for MPSIMS. This is The Pit and I was ranting because I had just lost a crappy job that appears to have left me with a numb left hand..

Accepted. (I also suspect I have ADD, if it’s any consolation. Which is why I’m on the SDMB when I should be working on my book.)

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