# I glory in the name of Briton **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 29, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924 "2007-06-29T14:45:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/161 "2007-07-08T11:14:44Z")
Well, I used to live in real, yokelly Cheshire and we never thought of places like Altrincham and Stockport as being part of the county. That was Manc-land. ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/162 "2007-07-08T11:24:50Z")
Doesn’t the question of exactly where you live effect things such as car and house insurance ? I once saw a TV programme about the suburbs of Manchester where one part of a street was classed as being in Manchester and the other half in Cheshire. The residents in the latter paid much lower insurance premiums. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/163 "2007-07-08T11:34:25Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Plus people from Ipswich o’ course [/QUOTE] Agreed. I’m from a posh place just outside. Genuinely outside 😃 [QUOTE=Rayne Man] Doesn’t the question of exactly where you live effect things such as car and house insurance ? I once saw a TV programme about the suburbs of Manchester where one part of a street was classed as being in Manchester and the other half in Cheshire. The residents in the latter paid much lower insurance premiums. [/QUOTE] The TV programme were probably simplifying things massively. The way they use locations to determine premiums is complicated. A friend moved out of studentville into Cheshire proper, but their car insurance didn’t change - they queried this, and were basically told ‘you’re still a student, so we know you’ll still be parking in M13 every day’. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/164 "2007-07-08T11:47:25Z")
[QUOTE=Rayne Man] Doesn’t the question of exactly where you live effect things such as car and house insurance ? I once saw a TV programme about the suburbs of Manchester where one part of a street was classed as being in Manchester and the other half in Cheshire. The residents in the latter paid much lower insurance premiums. [/QUOTE] If your street is in one area and the neighbouring street is in another then both your Council Tax and services you receive for it (e.g. rubbish collection) can vary considerably. I live in Rutland (smallest county in England 🆒 ) and invite posters to have a go at my local authority history: 1. In 1889, what was Rutland’s status? It was a County Council 1. What happened next? It became a Unitary Authority 😕 1. Rutland now counts as a District Council. What name did the Council choose for it? Rutland County Council District Council :smack: If you don’t believe me :eek: , look [here](http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/relationships.jsp?) and [here!](http://www.rutnet.co.uk/ppimageupload/Image28848.PDF) ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/165 "2007-07-08T14:15:18Z")
[QUOTE=GorillaMan] Agreed. I’m from a posh place just outside. Genuinely outside 😃 The TV programme were probably simplifying things massively. The way they use locations to determine premiums is complicated. A friend moved out of studentville into Cheshire proper, but their car insurance didn’t change - they queried this, and were basically told ‘you’re still a student, so we know you’ll still be parking in M13 every day’. [/QUOTE] From what I understand there are no posh places in/around/near Ipswich. Your nearest posh place is…Cheshire ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/166 "2007-07-08T15:10:47Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] From what I understand there are no posh places in/around/near Ipswich. Your nearest posh place is…Cheshire [/QUOTE] I suppose you’re right, if you define ‘posh’ as ‘lots of footballers live there’. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/167 "2007-07-08T15:54:57Z")
The funny thing is that you seldom see any of them. Admittedly most live in Alderley Edge and Bowdon but even so you’d reasonably expect to see these “superstars” more often than you do. Thus far I’ve seen Denis Law, Teddy Sherringham(now gone)Gary McAllister(also gone)Paul Dickov (what a bloody surname) and Dennis Irwin. I did once see Posh and Becks when I was delivering mail to Sherringham many moons ago ---
**Author:** ![Shecky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@Shecky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shecky)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/168 "2007-07-08T16:51:50Z")
2 words for you: Manchester City That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/169 "2007-07-08T16:52:29Z")
Is Cheshire even in the north? Is it covered by North West tonight? ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/170 "2007-07-08T17:20:35Z")
We used to get Midlands Today, even though they never reported news from anywhere nearer than Stoke. But we were in the Mid Cheshire Geographical Anomaly[sup]TM[/sup], with some huge hill between us and the Granada-land transmitter. Most people got Wales and Granada. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/171 "2007-07-08T17:36:47Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] The funny thing is that you seldom see any of them. Admittedly most live in Alderley Edge and Bowdon but even so you’d reasonably expect to see these “superstars” more often than you do. Thus far I’ve seen Denis Law, Teddy Sherringham(now gone)Gary McAllister(also gone)Paul Dickov (what a bloody surname) and Dennis Irwin. I did once see Posh and Becks when I was delivering mail to Sherringham many moons ago [/QUOTE] Hah! Bobby Smith used to live at the bottom of my road. (Back then he was probably on £20 a week :eek: ) ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/172 "2007-07-08T17:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] From what I understand there are no posh places in/around/near Ipswich. Your nearest posh place is…Cheshire [/QUOTE] I say! Mayfair is definitely nearer to Ipswich than this Cheshire place (wherever it is … in the North somewhere? 😕 ) ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/173 "2007-07-08T17:42:42Z")
[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan] Is Cheshire even in the north? Is it covered by North West tonight? [/QUOTE] Yes it is but usually they put out a special version entitled “Posh North West Tonight” Only Cheshirites have the special receiver able to view this enlightning programme Bobby Smith? Old Spurs player I believe ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/174 "2007-07-08T22:11:42Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] Bobby Smith? Old Spurs player I believe [/QUOTE] Centre forward of the Spurs 1960-61 Double team. 🆒 This was my first season watching football! Brown Baker, Henry, Blanchflower, Norman, Mackay Dyson, White, Smith, Allen, Jones ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/175 "2007-07-08T22:43:04Z")
[QUOTE=glee] I say! Mayfair is definitely nearer to Ipswich than this Cheshire place (wherever it is … in the North somewhere? 😕 ) [/QUOTE] I like it that you didn’t say “Ipswich is nearer to Mayfair than…” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/176 "2007-07-09T06:20:37Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Centre forward of the Spurs 1960-61 Double team. 🆒 This was my first season watching football! Brown Baker, Henry, Blanchflower, Norman, Mackay Dyson, White, Smith, Allen, Jones [/QUOTE] I remember the Spurs double team but not all the players. Wasn’t White killed by a lightning strike whilst playing golf? ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/177 "2007-07-09T07:17:48Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Centre forward of the Spurs 1960-61 Double team. 🆒 This was my first season watching football! Brown Baker, Henry, Blanchflower, Norman, Mackay Dyson, White, Smith, Allen, Jones [/QUOTE] This reminds me of that _Ripping Yarns_ episode where Gordon Ottershaw can name all the former players of Barnestoneworth United…“Noble, Carrick, Dobson, Crapper, Dewhurst, MacIntyre, Treadmore, Davitt” ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/178 "2007-07-09T11:39:22Z")
Wasn’t Crapper transferred to Melchester Rovers the season they won the FA Cup, League Championship, Carling Cup, Charity Shield, World Cup, Grand National,Derby, St Leger and the Ashes. The very same season that Roy Race broke his leg which prevented him winning Wimbledon for the 7th time ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/179 "2007-07-09T12:31:37Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] I remember the Spurs double team but not all the players. Wasn’t White killed by a lightning strike whilst playing golf? [/QUOTE] Sadly yes. > [@Rayne Man](#): > > This reminds me of that Ripping Yarns episode where Gordon Ottershaw can name all the former players of Barnestoneworth United…“Noble, Carrick, Dobson, Crapper, Dewhurst, MacIntyre, Treadmore, Davitt” I confess that I had to look up a couple of names, but it was incredibly exciting to be there (with my Dad 🆒 )while a team did the Double. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924/180 "2007-07-09T12:34:08Z")
[QUOTE=GorillaMan] I like it that you didn’t say “Ipswich is nearer to Mayfair than…” 😉 [/QUOTE] I was in Bertie Wooster mode 😃 . Thankfully Mayfair probably is nearer Ipswich, but it would have been safer to say “Ipswich is nearer to Mayfair …”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-glory-in-the-name-of-briton/409924.md?page=10)