# I got SCAMMED. Bugger.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [August 30, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505 "2018-08-30T04:38:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/21 "2018-08-30T23:16:59Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Don’t feel too bad. I know a guy who gets scammed on a regular basis. You, I suspect, will learn from this. Some folks never do.
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> And do you _really_ want to wear Birkenstocks? 😉
Yeah, summer is coming down here and they’re handy for traveling. Plus, I’m female. 😛
> [@simster](#):
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> The bigger concern should not be the missing sandals - but the fact this particular company now has that DC/CC information - I would be canceling that card immediately.
Card cancelled. I mentioned in the OP that it’s probably the most annoying thing about the whole affair.
> [@ftg](#):
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> It’s not all that hard to check to see how long a web site has been around.
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> E.g., a WHOIS [lookup](https://www.whois.net/)
That is fabulous, thank you so much!!
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### Author:  [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/22 "2018-08-30T23:30:18Z")
We recently got a credit card number stolen from our Grub Hub account. Wells Fargo investigated and refunded the money the thief spent on online gaming.
I don’t know whether to suspect a restaurant employee, GH deliverer, or if it was a higher-up site hacking. GH wouldn’t/couldn’t tell us where the breach occurred, so we unstored our payment info at their site, which makes ordering less quick and convenient.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/23 "2018-08-31T00:52:22Z")
> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Cool.
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> Domain Name: [FACEBOOK.COM](http://FACEBOOK.COM)
> Registry Domain ID: 2320948\_DOMAIN\_COM-VRSN
> Registrar WHOIS Server: [whois.registrarsafe.com](http://whois.registrarsafe.com)
> Registrar URL: [http://www.registrarsafe.com](http://www.registrarsafe.com)
> Updated Date: 2018-07-23T18:17:13Z
> Creation Date: 1997-03-29T05:00:00Z
> Registry Expiry Date: 2028-03-30T04:00:00Z
That’s an example of how the creation date for a domain name can be misleading, since it was only owned by Facebook since 2005.
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### Author:  [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/24 "2018-08-31T00:57:58Z")
> [@drachillix](#):
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> I honestly would not count this as being scammed, you purchased an item from a website that looked perfectly legit. Ran through the process, only to find out there was no product.
Isn’t that almost the textbook definition of ‘being scammed’??
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### Author:  [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/25 "2018-08-31T02:12:39Z")
I can get your money back for you. Just send me your bank routing number and your PIN code.
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### Author:  [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/26 "2018-08-31T02:28:31Z")
> [@kunilou](#):
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> I can get your money back for you. Just send me your bank routing number and your PIN code.
😛
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/27 "2018-08-31T11:19:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s an example of how the creation date for a domain name can be misleading, since it was only owned by Facebook since 2005.
Do you know why it is wrong?
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/28 "2018-08-31T12:27:04Z")
From Wikipedia, “In 2005, the company [Facebook] dropped “the” from its name after purchasing the domain name [facebook.com](http://facebook.com) for US$200,000.”
If Facebook really started in 1997, that would have been around the time of Mark Zuckerberg’s bar mitzvah.
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### Author:  [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/29 "2018-08-31T13:00:01Z")
I didn’t intend a WHOIS lookup to be a guarantee that a site has been around a long time. It should only be used to _rule out_ buying from a site that’s been around a couple months, for example. More diligence is required even for a site that appears to have been around a while.
Yeah, scammers buy up expiring domains all the time.
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### Author:  [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/30 "2018-08-31T13:42:01Z")
Yeah, Facebook was not the best example.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/31 "2018-08-31T13:54:44Z")
Actually, it was a useful example, because the creation date of the domain name and the creation date of the company were different.
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/32 "2018-08-31T14:33:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Actually, it was a useful example, because the creation date of the domain name and the creation date of the company were different.
Yes, remember there was a speculative rush back in ye olden web days where everybody tried to snap up any domain name with the hopes of reselling them later.
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/33 "2018-08-31T15:42:14Z")
Both times I got my debit card compromised the bank told me. Yay Suntrust!
Confirmed, no, I was not traveling in England or Indiana at the time, money refunded, new card issued. No biggie.
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### Author:  [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/34 "2018-08-31T17:24:15Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Don’t feel too bad. I know a guy who gets scammed on a regular basis. You, I suspect, will learn from this. Some folks never do.
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> And do you _really_ want to wear Birkenstocks? 😉
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> > [@Lurking\_Quahog](#):
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> > This could be the first time I’ve ever seen a Deadhead (assumption made based on your avatar) dissuading someone from wearing Birkenstocks. 😉
Just a heads up: don’t ever base anything on **Gatopescado’s** avatar.
😃
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/35 "2018-08-31T18:37:54Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> If you used a credit card, ya gots rights.
In the US, a credit card issuer will refund your money and go after the fraudster themselves, unlike with a debit card. But the OP is in Australia.
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### Author:  [@SuperAbe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperAbe)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/36 "2018-08-31T18:56:58Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> In the US, a credit card issuer will refund your money and go after the fraudster themselves, unlike with a debit card. But the OP is in Australia.
So - instead - a deadly and poisonous wild animal will be sent to the OP’s house immediately, courtesy of the card issuer.
😉
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### Author:  [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)
#### Post date: [August 31, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-got-scammed-bugger/820505/37 "2018-08-31T22:50:04Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But the OP is in Australia.
It’s the same as with a credit card, you can apply (and get) a chargeback of any disputed charge (as long as you selected to have it go through the card company - online, that would be how it was done).
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